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Jesse Skeen
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posted 07-13-2001 09:16 PM

The first Disney movies were distributed by RKO.
I see Di$ney AS a "big evil company" nowadays- most of the things they now own don't even have anything to do with Walt's original intents. When they started their Touchstone division and started putting out 'regular' movies, including R-rated ones, that was the beginning of the end.

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Michael Brown
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posted 07-14-2001 06:47 AM

I hate when they change logo's the old Universal logo was nicer with better music and the new UIP logo is pants.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 07-14-2001 06:13 PM

Please explain this "pants" term. Obviously it is some sort of England-slang. I want to know what it means so I can call all of my American friends "pants" and tell them it is an insult. Then I will impress them because I know a foreign language!

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Mike Blakesley
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posted 07-14-2001 06:25 PM

There's also a cool variation on Disney's logo on "Atlantis."

I was hoping after the Pixar version of the logo came out that Disney would adopt that one for all their films. Looks cool.

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Bob Maar
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posted 07-14-2001 06:52 PM

Hey

In Denver they call them Under "pants" ! Now you know.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 07-15-2001 02:26 AM

I don't know about you guys, but I am scared whenver I rent an MGM released DVD. I am running for the volume knob on my Yamaha receiver when that lion roars. I think it is in the room with me. I AM NOT FAT ENOUGH TO EAT, KITTY!

Back to the Screen Gems thing. I tell you the thing that would scare me is if Sony ran the same cheezy logo and music they did for Screen Gems in the 1970s. I seem to remember that crappy yellow background and red swashes on the tail end of game shows and "Barney Miller" episodes. Am I wrong on this? Do I have this confused with some other production company?

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Michael Brown
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posted 07-15-2001 09:59 AM

The mgm logo was very impressive when I saw Spinal Tapp last year.

The print was Doubly Digital.

Scary Lion Not pants at all.

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Bernard Tonks
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posted 07-15-2001 10:50 AM

How about the old REPUBLIC PICTURES trade mark with the Eagle and that most awesome music.

Herbert J. Yates presents a Republic Picture in Truecolor by Consolidated Industries.

Actress Vera Ralston (Herbert J. Yates wife) always seemed to be in every Republic movie!

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William Hooper
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posted 07-17-2001 12:11 AM

That Rank gong! You just *know* it's going to be loud!

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Bruce McGee
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posted 07-17-2001 01:16 AM

You got it, Bobby. That logo was also printed on the syndicated show 2" tape cases that we ran back in the late 70's in TV.

That logo was the replacement for the animated Screen Gems logo that featured the dancing colored lines.

The Flintstones used both of these logo's.

The yellow/red one really sounded cheaper when they shortened it in 1973.

The best logo from SG is the late 50s one that went on the Three Stooges shorts.

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Matthew Bailey
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posted 07-18-2001 07:42 AM

Does anyone have a 35 millimeter print of the animated yellow/red
Screen Gems logo? If not does anyone have a 16 millimeter
print of it and would consider having it transferred to 35 millimeter
and send it to me for free to run on my Simplex 1014 in flat
aspect ratio or have it transferred to 35 from video?
Another question Does john Pytlak hav a print of this
or someone even the person(s) at the NC Screen Gems studios
have a print of the mentioned red and yellow animated logo footage
to transfer to 35 millimeter? Just think about how loud it
would sound if the mentioned yellow/red logo was redone in THX,
DTS,SDDS,DOLBY DIGITAL,or Dolby analogue,or reprinted in IMAX
format or even 3D. Maybe Sensurround.

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Brad Miller
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posted 07-18-2001 02:26 PM

While someone may have an existing print of this laying around somewhere, printing this up from 16mm or video would be more expensive than making 5 million projectors out of Lego. It may be short, but it's the setup costs that will ensure this will never happen.

Also, even if someone was to waste a day of their life by remixing the sound for that logo, just because it is in THX or DTS or SDDS or whatever does NOT make it "louder".

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Rick Long
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posted 07-18-2001 09:43 PM

Ya wanna talk scary?

I was running a b/w print from England back in the late 60's. It had the M.G.M. typical lion thing on the front but with NO SOUND!!!

As the trailers were on machine 1 and this was on machine 2, it kinda led one to beleive one had a sound problem. Banged my head on the damned positive feed knob for the arc lamp while quickly bending down to check the exciter lamp, slit on the film, ect.

Checked it on the rewind bench after change-over and sure enough, nothing on the sound-tack.

Course I really shoulda left a note for the projectionist coming in at 6:00, but then, he was a bit of a prick.

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Jesse Skeen
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posted 07-19-2001 02:41 AM

So if Screen Gems started as Columbia's TV division, how did it end up years later as one of their (now Sony's) movie studios?
I think it's cool how they kept the old logo, they should've kept the music for it too. (I miss that 70's "W" Warner used to use too.)

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Bruce McGee
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posted 07-19-2001 02:21 PM

Sony probably owns all of the past Columbia Pictures Corporation trademarks, and logos. To bad they couldn't have used a better looking one, eh?

Our local PBS affiliates, The North Carolina Center for Public Television, uses a logo that looks very much like the one that we are harping over here. I think it is ugly, too.

I've probably got an old 16mm print with the yellow/red logo on it. I think that the one I have has no sound though.

Some of the Tarzan films I ran on TV had silent MGM logo's. I wondered then if something had happened to the soundtrack... Talk about terrible print quality!

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