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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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From: Denver, Colorado
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 - posted 07-19-2001 01:57 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Actually my static IP was not really supposed to be that way. I had to bitch. I was having speed problems at first so I kept calling. They finally changed my service over to a different router on their end. They told me that I was on a static IP now. Hopefully they don't move it. They said they'd call first if they were going to. They didn't seem to give any indication that there would ever be a reason to.

What the hell is OC-3?


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Les Daniels
Film Handler

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From: Peachtree City, GA, USA
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 - posted 07-19-2001 02:11 AM      Profile for Les Daniels   Email Les Daniels   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I work for a international teleconferencing company.. so we are all about the phone lines.

T-1 - 1.544 megabits per second (24 DS0 lines)
T-3 - 43.232 megabits per second (28 T1s)
OC-3 - 155 megabits per second (100 T1s)
OC-12 - 622 megabits per second (4 OC3s)
OC-48 - 2.5 gigabits per seconds (4 OC12s)
OC-192 - 9.6 gigabits per second (4 OC48s)

(Yes, they do go higher than this.. but usually only internet backbone providers need that much bandwidth (UUNet/MCI, Spring, etc)).

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Les Daniels
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 - posted 07-19-2001 02:18 AM      Profile for Les Daniels   Email Les Daniels   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
As for websites that I spend most of my day on...besides this one.
http://www.betanews.com
http://www.userfriendly.org
(Only because I work tech support, and this stuff kills me)
http://www.theonion.com
(SAMPLE HEADLINE)
300 Naked Women Feared Lost In Computer Crash
ELLICOTT CITY, MD-- An estimated 300 naked women, including actresses Pamela Anderson and Shannon Elizabeth, are feared lost as the result of a tragic computer crash Monday. "One minute, they were there, and the next, they were gone," said a visibly shaken Jonathan Blauvelt, 33, the Ellicott City resident whose Power Mac G4 was the site of the disaster. "To lose so many young girls in the blink of an eye like that, it's hard to comprehend. Angelina Jolie, Anna Kournikova, the chick from Species--it's just too much to bear." As data-recovery workers comb through the hard drive for signs of ass, Blauvelt is asking well-wishers to pray for the naked ladies' safe return.


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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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 - posted 07-19-2001 02:56 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ah! My Mac has gigabit ethernet on it (10/100/1000 base). I think I may get me one of them OC-192's for surfin' the internet! I'm sure it's really cheap! Just think of all of the porn I could download! (J/K,... I hope).

DSLReports' speed test is only reliable up to 5mbps.


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Les Daniels
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 - posted 07-19-2001 05:43 AM      Profile for Les Daniels   Email Les Daniels   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ave. cost for an OC-3 is $35,000.-$49,000./mo.

Umm.. you do the math.


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Michael Brown
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 - posted 07-19-2001 06:40 AM      Profile for Michael Brown   Email Michael Brown   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm not sure what connection the university uses.

I just thought of a good site The Urban Legends Reference Page at www.snopes2.com

check out the disney section and decide for yourselves if there is a
phallic symbol on the Little Mermaid video cover or if in Aladin someone talkes about taking their clothes off. etc

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John Pytlak
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 - posted 07-19-2001 12:49 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Les Daniels said:

"I work for a international teleconferencing company.. so we are all about the phone lines.

T-1 - 1.544 megabits per second (24 DS0 lines)
T-3 - 43.232 megabits per second (28 T1s)
OC-3 - 155 megabits per second (100 T1s)
OC-12 - 622 megabits per second (4 OC3s)
OC-48 - 2.5 gigabits per seconds (4 OC12s)
OC-192 - 9.6 gigabits per second (4 OC48s)"

"Ave. cost for an OC-3 is $35,000.-$49,000./mo."

For a reasonable download time (few hours?) of a 40-50 gigabyte Digital Cinema movie file, what data rate would be used today? What would be the cost of a dedicated connection? If a theatre needed to download about 12 movies a month, could they contract for a fractional line? Or would a better option be to take a much longer time on a slower line?

Obviously a dedicated OC-3 would be fast, but $35,000 - $49,000 a month would cost a theatre many times more than the cost to make a dozen film prints, not to mention the cost of mastering, encryption, watermarking, etc. Data delivery does have a price.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion


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Les Daniels
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I wouldn't even want to go into all the technicalities of what would be possible to download digital video for a theatre. There are just too many options... Why not just take a slower line/less cost and have the movie download over a longer time.

I wouldn't see the need to rush something that already takes a couple days to be received. *shrug* Don't digital camera's already work off of "uploading" cd's to the projector?

Anyone have any links as to where I could find more information about the data storage of a digital projector? More technical the better


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Les Daniels
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Assuming it was a 50 GIG file... here are the estimated download times for different bandwidths.

T1 - 74 Hrs 15 Min 28 Sec
T2 - 18 Hrs 33 Min 52 Sec
Satellite - 4 Hrs 45 Min 8 Sec
T3 - 2 Hrs 28 Min 30 Sec
T4 - 24 Hrs 45 Sec

OC1 - 2 Hrs 14 Min 4 Sec
OC3 - 0 Hrs 44 Min 9 Sec
OC12 - 0 Hrs 11 Min 24 Sec
OC48 - 2 Min 51 Sec

Of course, personally I don't agree with these numbers, and these are based on "perfect world" numbers...

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Les Daniels
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And... for Greg Mueller

The download for a 50 Gig digital movie would be.....according to his line test speeds.

*drumroll please*

2001 Hrs 28 Min and 0 Sec


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Scott Norwood
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 - posted 07-19-2001 05:42 PM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Regarding the "storage" issue: the demos so far have used a Qubit disk array, which incorporates proprietary compression technology. http://www.quvis.com/ has some information, though nothing terribly technical.

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John Pytlak
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 - posted 07-20-2001 10:45 AM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Les said: "And... for Greg Mueller

The download for a 50 Gig digital movie would be.....according to his line test speeds.

*drumroll please*

2001 Hrs 28 Min and 0 Sec"

Gee, Greg could download 4 movies a year at that rate, and only have to pay about $250 for his Internet Service Provider, plus the cost of a dedicated phone line. Let's just hope he doesn't suffer a disconnect during the 2001 hours it takes to download.

Of course, after 83 days of downloading before Greg can play the movie, it will already be available on home video and cable.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion

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Jerry Chase
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"Of course, after 83 days of downloading before Greg can play the movie, it will already be available on home video and cable. "

How much do you want to bet it'll end up being a movie he doesn't like?


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Brad Miller
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 - posted 09-20-2001 02:00 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Getting back to the original subject of this thread, here's an interesting one that I stumbled across today.
The Gallery of Regrettable food
(The "10PM Cookery" under "Recipe Books" is pretty amusing.)

There's more at the base domain address www.lileks.com


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David Stambaugh
Film God

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 - posted 02-18-2002 10:14 PM      Profile for David Stambaugh   Author's Homepage   Email David Stambaugh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have to put in my plug for www.cinematour.com ! I submitted some pics of Cinemark 17 in Springfield, also an exterior shot of Regal Cinema World 8 in Eugene. Not the best quality images but OK (may give it another try sometime). Very cool web site.

[Re: Regal Cinema World 8. As you can see, the entire front of the building is glass, and facing south-west, so it gets full daylight. The booth is on a kind of catwalk above the lobby, and it's partially exposed to all this outside light, which explains why they have trouble with light infiltration in some of the auditoriums]

If you haven't sent in pics of your theater, hop to it!

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- dave
Look at this! His chin strap has been cut!


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