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Topic: stop the madness...E.T. getting re-edited.....
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Evans A Criswell
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1579
From: Huntsville, AL, USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 03-21-2002 10:57 AM
quote: Some people will see the new version (having never seen any version on the big screen) and they'll be convinced that some new detail was added... only to go home and see the old video again and realize it was always there.
I've noticed this before. The first time I saw "Star Wars" on the big screen in 1997, I went home and checked all sorts of details on the video, thinking that many things weren't as I remembered them, just to find that nearly all of them were the same. The same happened with "Grease" when I saw its rerelease a few years back. Evans ------------------ Evans A Criswell Huntsville-Decatur Movie Theatre Information Site
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 03-23-2002 04:02 PM
I say, if SS didn't have the time to cut the line for it's initial release, then he shouldn't be allowed to cut the line later without having to loose his original copyright. If anyone gets the DVD of _USED CARS_ (a great movie, I might add) the comentary track is excellent. On of the things that Robert Zemeckis brings up is that films mark a place in time and should NOT be recut later and he has no intention of doing so. One thing to note is that Steven Spielberg was an executive producer on _USED CARS_. Aparantly there are several high-profile film makers that have this philosophy, I'm happy to say. Apparently Mr. Lucas and Mr. Spielberg do not agree. Steve ------------------ "Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
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Dave Williams
Wet nipple scene

Posts: 1836
From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 03-23-2002 10:13 PM
Steve, I will agree in principal about making any changes after initial, and therefore, copyright and release. I think that the owner losing any and all rights to the original is a good idea, but only if you attach a few riders to the idea... ...a period of time must pass after the release of an altered version before the original can be up for grabs... say one to five years... ...revenues must still be paid to the original holder, but the original holder would lose all rights other than that. As close to public domain as you get while still maintaining ownership. Some films can really benefit from touchups. But thats it, touchups. I do not agree with changing lines, context, whatever... CASE IN POINT. EMPIRE STRIKES BACK... a very critical and crucial line towards the end was replaced for the special edition, completely ruining the mood... ... Darth Vader has just watch his son drop to what could be his death... he walks away surrounded by his guards.. in the original he says "Bring my shuttle"... it is short, deep, and angry. It sets a tone for the fact that anakin is still in there somewhere. BUT... in the special edition, the line is changed to "Alert my shuttle craft and inform my destroyer that we will be departing" or something like that. THe line was said as if he didnt give a rats ass, as if he just had a great pizza with beer and needed to get to the bathroom, but not in a real hurry to do so. WHY WHY WHY??? I want the original on DVD and screw these special editions. Damn them, damn them all to hell!!!! Can you imaging Charlton Hestons planet of the apes being re edited to remove the guns and putting in walkie talkies? I think even ol chucky there would get it much sooner when he saw the motorola logos. You think he would have gotten it with the remmington rifles the apes were using. Or the fact that he was in lake powell. Dave
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