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Leo Enticknap
Film God

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From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000

posted 02-06-2002 04:05 AM

Out of morbid interest, what was the film Joe dropped and how long did it take to wind it up again?

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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posted 02-06-2002 04:16 AM

It was "On the Line", starring Lance Bass.

Taking into account the movie as well as the horrific acting in it, we found the movie is now more enjoyable. Wouldn't you agree?

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Joe Beres
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From: Minneapolis, MN, USA
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posted 02-06-2002 09:50 AM

Joe, was "On the Line" also the film in your new picture? That could possibly be the best use for that particular picture yet.

Burning the trailer wasn't a bad idea either

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Michael Barry
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From: Sydney, NSW, Australia
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posted 02-06-2002 10:52 AM

A total classic!

I found that the large MPEG version in full-screen mode looked very good with very fluid motion and overall quality. Somehow when I try and play quicktime movies in full-screen on the same computer it looks jerky. This is on a Pentium II-350Mhz.

By all means, please provide MPEG versions for all future videos! If you can provide a large MPEG version of 'Interlocking 101' that would be best of all...MPEG also means that one can make a VCD and watch it on a DVD player (if one is so inclined!).

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Leo Enticknap
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posted 02-06-2002 02:37 PM

I was kinda hoping you'd dropped a Woody Allen film, but 'On the Line' will do...

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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From: Denver, Colorado
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posted 02-06-2002 02:38 PM

It was my intention to make the MPEG fully VCD compatible (NTSC). I was also thinking about doing an MPEG-2 DVD file, but I don't think many people have DVD Burners yet. I can't make Interlocking 101 into an MPEG since it excedes MPEG's standard aspect ratio. I could squeeze it into an MPEG like scope movies are squeezed onto 35mm film, but then you'd have to use your 16:9 TV to unsqueeze it, and the resolution would be lower.

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Paul Cassidy
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From: Auckland, New Zealand
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posted 02-06-2002 10:39 PM

The film inspection was cool , the Big Mac would be like using Lube while inspecting and the salted chips would give it that old film News reel type presentation (scratches etc.)and the film on the ground would be cleaned after using the particle rollers on the the floor, First Rate Job.

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John Wilson
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From: Sydney, Australia.
Registered: Dec 1999

posted 02-07-2002 01:22 AM

Well done Joe and Ethan.

Michael brought a copy of it into the Ritz today and now it stands proudly on the PC desktop for all to witness.

Very funny...I particularly liked the PTR bit, but that's just me.

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Paul G. Thompson
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From: Mount Vernon WA USA
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posted 02-07-2002 01:28 AM

Joe, you really did a good job on that. I downloaded all of them. Ran into the same problem Josh did on his 754 meg download, but the large MPEG looked really great!

I have a training seminar Saturday morning, and you are going to be the star.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 02-07-2002 02:40 AM

Again, the 754 Meg download is ONLY for people who will run it through firewire to some DV device. Don't expect it to look good playing on your desktop because Quicktime does not show you even half of the information in the DV file just so it can run smoothly.

By the way, thanks for all of your comments. But I was not the only one who worked on this. Brad ran the camera for me on all shots and came up with some creative compositons so that when edited would flow smoother and look cooler. It worked and I did learn a lot about the way he used things (like when to use zoom, etc etc) to great effect. He also thought up the majority of the scenarios. The original training video was 100% my ideas as was the Tamarac, but Brad came up with 90% of these to begin with and then we worked them out so that they were the best they could be. This video would not have been as cool without Brad's input and creative use of camera. What was the scenario that I came up with? The threading at the end. Everything else = original Bradrick Miller idea.

And the biggest contributer has to be Ethan and his faint shadow. It took 6 and a half hours getting Ethan to stand in the right spot to cast the perfect shadow. Without that shadow, it would not have been worth completing this at all.

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Paul Konen
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From: Frisco, TX. (North of Dallas)
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posted 02-07-2002 09:34 AM

I too enjoyed the whole thing and was trapped by the title.

I particularly enjoyed the PTR cleanup and the WD-40 just kept going and going and ...

Paul.

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Paul G. Thompson
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From: Mount Vernon WA USA
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posted 02-08-2002 12:12 AM

Joe, just out of curiosity, How many actual man-hours was devoted to this, including planning and setting it up?

I made a video along time ago, and for one minute of actual footage used, it took about 1 hour of editing, dubbing, and scene matching.

I would guess it took at least a minimum of one full day,(maybe two)for all of you to come up with the finished product.

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Ron Lacheur
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From: British Columbia, Canada
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posted 02-08-2002 12:51 AM

754MB download?

Geez, how long is this thing?

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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posted 02-08-2002 02:33 AM

Ron, the 754 meg download is a full blown digital resolution file, of which very few people will actually have the equipment to play it back properly. The regular MPEG and QuickTime download options range from 12 megs to 35 megs, which are the ones you will want to go for.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 02-08-2002 02:38 AM

I didn't log the hours, but we shot on 3 separate days I believe. They weren't all day shoots or anything like that. Editing took longer than the shoot, which is usually the case. Editing took nearly a week when you include all of the sound work and music creation etc etc etc. It seemed that compressing the file into Quicktimes and MPEGs took the longest. Ugh!

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