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John Pytlak
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Joe Redifer asked: "And how did it look, John?"

The 60,310-run short sample I have has some projector abrasion of the edges of the film (this venue has on-line cleaning of their prints, which keeps the image area spotless), but the image area is perfectly scratch-free. Fading depends upon the xenon lamp power and the effectiveness of the ultraviolet (UV) and heat filtration, but almost all of these prints have seen tens of thousands of runs before the are retired for fading.

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David Stambaugh
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If we're talking about "longest run in this area" as opposed to at a single theatre [Wink] , it could be Greek Wedding. It was down to a single evening show at Regal the last couple weeks. Now today Regal is back to 5 shows a day at regular first-run prices, while ironically, Cinemark's $1.50 theatre also has it, also 5 shows a day.

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Scott Norwood
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How long will the DLP equipment survive when operated by the same morons who trash a print in 100 runs? I wish that they would compare film vs. DLP when both are run by competent professionals or, at least, when both are run by popcorn monkeys. Comparisons between DLP being run by a $100+/hour engineer and film being run by a poorly trained minimum-wage popcorn kid are just misleading.

I've never understood why the DLP people bring up the "color fading" issue. Even the worst Eastmancolor prints would be good for several years. Modern prints, of course, will last for decades, at least, without noticeable color fading.

(I'm not anti-DLP. I am anti-misinformation.)

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John Pytlak
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Scott Norwood wrote: "Comparisons between DLP being run by a $100+/hour engineer and film being run by a poorly trained minimum-wage popcorn kid are just misleading."

AFAIK, most of the current digital cinema installations are now RUN by the regular booth personnel, not engineers. However, it's likely much more attention is paid to maintenance than most film projectors, using service engineers.

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Paul Linfesty
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quote:
I've never understood why the DLP people bring up the "color fading" issue.
Well, the same thing that creates "color fading" at one of our multiplexes will still create "color fading" with DLP projection. Allowing for film to build up over the projection portal over months at a time will certainly make the image look worse and worse. Or not protecting lenses so they scratch (and badly) over time. Same for DLP. and on and on. (or changing out the lamphouses before the bulb starts to dim).

BTW, isn't DLP kind of dead right now, anyway? At least this version of it?

Even though the latest HARRY POTTER ran in DLP in some places, the Grumaun's Chinese ran it on film, even though they have had several DLP presentations earlier this year.

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Paul Linfesty
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Along with the Northpark in Dallas, they were the first THX houses anywhere in the world. (Tomlinson Holman told me a while ago that he thought there was also a THX house in Florida around that same time.)
According to a May 17, 1983 article in the Los Angeles Times, THX was in place at four commericial theatres: the Avco in Westwood (where it was also used to demo the sytem to the industry), two theatres in Dallas, Tx, and a theatre in Orlando, Florida.

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John Pytlak
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Paul Linfesty wrote: "Even though the latest HARRY POTTER ran in DLP in some places, the Grumaun's Chinese ran it on film, even though they have had several DLP presentations earlier this year."

If that's true, it's really news! Does anyone know why "Harry Potter" was not presented using the Digital Cinema system at the Hollywood Chinese theatre? (They are currenly playing "Gangs of New York").

I can think of several possible reasons:

1. The system was being upgraded, and was not available.

2. "Harry Potter" was not available in the digital file format (server) that the Chinese theatre uses.

3. The wanted a larger screen image that only film could provide.

4. Audiences preferred film presentation.

Does anyone know the real "scoop"?

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Robert Golding
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Paul
at least I had sacramento right, a long time ago. Must be having one of those senior moments (brain fart). Where did you work or reside in sac during the 60's.

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Tim Reed
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The Southland 68 Drive-In, which was in Central KY, ran "Smokey and the Bandit" for almost a season and a half in '78-'79. The first year was aided by the theatre's promotion of giving away Coor's beer (featured in the movie, and not available in KY at the time) every night at intermission.

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Paul Linfesty
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Where did you work or reside in sac during the 60's.

I didn't, but I did some microfilm research of the 60's while in Sacramento a couple of years ago.

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Paul Linfesty
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at least I had sacramento right, a long time ago.
Robert, Actually, you had the theatre correct, too. I was wrong. Except about the length of the run. The Sound of Music began it's reserved-seat Engagement at the Crest (not the Alhambra) on September 22, 1965 and ended on November 8, 1966. It was replaced by the Reserved-Seat Engagement of The Blue Max. Roadshows at the Alhambra in this time frame included MY FAIR LADY and DOCTOR ZHIVAGO. Apparently, the only roadhsow houses in Sacramento at this time were the Crest, Alhambra, and Esquire Cinerama. They were later joined when Syufy opened the Century 21 and 22 theatres, two single theatres next to each other (one which later got two smaller domes added and both of the larger ones split).

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