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Topic: Audiogalaxy joins Napster
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Scott Norwood
Film God

Posts: 8146
From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 06-21-2002 10:22 PM
Chad--there are two problems with your argument: 1. Most of these services (at least in the case of Napster and its clones) do not actually provide copyrighted material to anyone. They simply provide a "who has what" directory and a mechanism for peer-to-peer file exchange. It's essentially a very specialized re-implementation of other concepts like web search engines and ftp file transfer. Since providing a search engine isn't (yet) illegal in the US, there is no (legal) reason (save for lobbying by the RIAA) for these directory services to be shut down. 2. File-transfer and directory services have numerous legitimate non-infringing uses, such as for the transfer of files which are either old enough to have fallen into the public domain or which have been explicity permitted to be distributed freely by their copyright owners. The existance of substantial non-infringing uses for these services is also reason enough not to use legal means to shut them down.I'm not intimately familiar with how KaZaA, audiogalaxy, etc. work, so I can't comment on them specifically, but if they're anything like Napster, I don't see any legitimate reason to shut them down legally. I would _not_ want to become involved in any way with a company which knowingly profited from widespread copyright infringement, but I also don't think that these services should be shut down by the courts. I don't condone piracy of any type, but I don't want to see technological progress influenced by heavy political contributors who do not fully understand the implications of their actions. Think about how hard the MPAA tried to kill the Sony Betamax and then consider how much profit its members have derived from videotape and DVD sales. If we ban everything that could possibly be used to violate copyrights, then we should be prepared to live in a world without tape recorders, xerox machines, paper, pens, printing presses, cameras, etc.
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Chad Souder
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 962
From: Waterloo, IA, USA
Registered: Feb 2000
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posted 06-22-2002 04:09 PM
Scott said, "Most of these services ... do not actually provide copyrighted material to anyone."That's why I said 'avenues for piracy' which is what they are. Tape recorders, xerox machines, paper, pens, printing presses, cameras, etc. have never had the wide spread capabilities our internet does, so its a whole different game. And like CD burners, there are legitimate legal uses for those products, so they have flourished. The examples you gave of old files and permitted files being made available could easily be done through web pages providing these types of files legally. There are no legal offerings Napster gives that cannot easily be compensated for through regular web pages. Currently, there are no viable alternatives for "tape recorders, xerox machines, paper, pens, printing presses, cameras, etc." There are plenty of alternatives for the types of files you mentioned. You say you don't condone piracy of any type, but that's what these programs encourage. Its kind of like if every month, there were a huge convention where thousands of people got together and brought all their music and copied off what they wanted. You can bet that the arena they used would be stopped from hosting such activities. Only here its not thousands, its billions around the world. Napster and others are the arenas. I look at it like this. The people who have spent years working hard to make it in the music industry are losing money because of sites like Napster. Real money, not like friends dubbing tapes from each other. Millions of downloads a day for free. I realize that bands don't make much off album sales, but they do make a little, and sale numbers give them leverage for what they get for tours. They have worked hard for the recognition they have finally achieved, and thus are entitled to the rewards. I would think some of our guitar toting participants would agree. If a band wants to make its songs available for free, fine, throw them on their web page. Easy as that. It boils down to the trend of wanting something for nothing, and now we have the technoloy to do it on a very, very large scale. I hope you don't feel the same about people sneaking in the exit doors of theatres.
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