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David Stambaugh
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posted 06-23-2002 01:27 PM

Dave Williams mentioned "Cliff Eidelman for Star Trek 6"

Yes! He went in a completely different, darker direction from the previous ST stuff and it worked wonderfully well for that film.

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Michael Brown
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posted 06-23-2002 02:04 PM

I'm a sucker for a good bit of Danny Elfman

Thats a good bit of Danny Elfman. Wasn't impressed with Spiderman really.

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Leo Enticknap
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posted 06-23-2002 02:54 PM

Greg: Music in the original Fantasia was as follows:

J.S. Bach - Toccata and Fugue in D minor BWV565
Tchaikovsky: Nutcracker ballet suite
Dukas: Symphonic poem 'L'Apprenti Sorcier' (this section is repeated in Fantasia 2000)
Stravinky: The Rite of Spring
Beethoven: Symphony no. 6 ('Pastoral'), first movement
Ponichelli: Dance of the Hours
Moussorgsky: Night on a Bare Mountain
Schubert: Ave Maria

Can't remember which of these had the dinosaurs, but it wasn't the Dukas (that's Mickey Mouse and the buckets)

My favourite orchestral film score: Arthur Bliss' music for Things to Come, closely followed by Miles Davis' music for Lift to the Scaffold (OK, not orchestral or in the least bit symphonic, but I wanted to get it in anyway).

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 06-23-2002 05:08 PM

Danny Elfman's movie music is pretty cool. I loved his "Edward Scissorhands" score, and the expansive choral sounds of it is the main thing I remember from seeing that film in 70mm Cinema Digital Sound. Other scores of his I like include: "Mars Attacks," "Mission Impossible," "The Nightmare Before Christmas" and "Batman".

I checked IMBD for his filmography (this guy has scored a lot of films). The Elfman's birthday is one day after mine (well, that seems kind of cool to me anyway). Of all places, I would never have figured him to be from Amarillo.

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Greg Mueller
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posted 06-23-2002 10:00 PM

Leo is that the Korda version of "Things to Come"? I really like that version

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John Scott
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posted 06-23-2002 11:44 PM

Stravinsky's Rite of Spring was the Dinasaurs.

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Ken Lackner
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posted 06-24-2002 12:12 AM

Of course! How could I forget Eric Serra. The Fifth Element is another one of my favorite scores.

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Leo Enticknap
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posted 06-24-2002 02:45 AM

Greg: Was there another version? Yes, it was that one (1935) I was thinking of.

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Dave Williams
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posted 06-24-2002 04:09 AM

Greg andersen posted

"You must have a different definition for "wussy" than I do, Dave."

Yes Greg I think I do. What I meant actually to say is that I feel that for the films Goldsmith composes for, the soundtrack is great, but just doesn't really make me feel in the proper mood for the film. He tends to take a more lighter and fuller sound approach to composing than I like. Mind you his work is very good, but once again, as a star trek fan of sorts, I am upset that they have again chosen him to score the new film due out this december. His score for the last one was laughable as far as trek goes, and for the one before that, the one with the borg, just didn't really use the music to truly show the malevolent nature of them.

I just think that Goldsmith is not realy suited to score for more imposing films like that. Then again, that is from a fan of sci fi works that are dark and devious.

Still, he does good work regardless.

Dave

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Peter Kerchinsky
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posted 06-24-2002 06:03 AM

Goldsmith a wussy!!!!!
You've got to be kidding.
My favs are his GREAT TRAIN ROBBERY, STAR TREK, THE MOTION PICTURE, EXPLORERS, UNDER FIRE with Pat Matheny and PATTON.
How about Bill Conti for ROCKY and RIGHT STUFF.
I can't think of the composers name off hand, but did anyone remember a film called CARAVANS with Anthony Quinn. Great soundtrack, crap of a movie.
Another soundtrack that sticks with me, BLUE LAGOON by Basil P.
(Sorry can't remember how to spell last name.
And last but not least, the soundtrack to A LITTLE ROMANCE.

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Oscar Neundorfer
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posted 06-24-2002 06:41 AM

Leo wrote: "Moussorgsky: Night on a Bare Mountain"

I am not sure, but I think it is " A Night On Bald Mountain"

Oscar

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Leo Enticknap
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posted 06-24-2002 07:01 AM

According to Grove's Dictionary of Music and Musicians, the full name of the piece is 'St. John's Night on The Bare Mountain.'

It doesn't give the original Russian title, nor have I been able to find it in a web search, so I can't tell you exactly what the adjective in question is. 'Bare' and 'bald' mean pretty much the same thing in this context, so I guess it has been translated differently by different people.

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Oscar Neundorfer
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posted 06-24-2002 08:03 AM

Leo,

I guess I never even considered the fact that it was originally a Russian title and had to be translated. Bald Mountain is the only way I have ever seen it listed, so I ASSUMED (which is a bad thing to do sometimes) that it was correct. Certainly bare and bald could mean very similar things (as anyone who has seen the top of my head can attest) and could easily have been used interchangeably in different translations.

Regardless of the title, it is a magnificent piece of music which I have enjoyed for years. Thanks for the additional info.

Oscar

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Leo Enticknap
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posted 06-24-2002 08:22 AM

You may already have heard it, but if not there's a great CD of Night on the (Folically Challenged?) Mountain which came out about 2-3 years ago with Fritz Reiner conducting the Chicago Symphony Orchestra. It's a reissue of a 1950s RCA 'Living Stereo' LP and the sound quality is as good as you're ever going to get from the limited frequency range of a CD. The same disc also has Ravel's orchestration of Pictures at an Exhibition which I really don't like (the original version as written by Mussorgsky is for piano solo, and is far more subtle, IMHO), but again the transfer quality is excellent.

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Greg Mueller
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posted 06-24-2002 10:08 AM

Leo Yes there was at least one remake, in the 70s I think, didn't bother to see it, the original was unimproveable. (I loved the big machines and construction scenes, not to mention the airplanes)

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