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Topic: Community up in arms about "Like Mike"!!!
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Thomas Procyk
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1842
From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 07-04-2002 02:48 PM
There was a segment on the local news about "Like Mike" yesterday regarding that scene. The Florida Power and Light company was concerned, but the news people interviewed kids as young as 8 who knew not to go near power lines. No notices were posted at any theaters as far as I know. Living in the lightning capital of the world, kids around here know not to play in the rain, either. quote: After all, if the New Orleans Jazz wouldn't have moved there, they prolly wouldn't know what basketball or rap music is.
"...the Oilers moved to Tennessee where there is no oil...the Jazz moved to Salt Lake City where they don't allow music..." -- BASEketball, 1998, Universal Pictures. =TMP=
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Brad Miller
Administrator

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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99
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posted 07-04-2002 04:22 PM
Greg, I am very sorry to hear about your friend. That was unfortunate. As to the topic at hand, the forum rules state very specifically not to insult another member directly. Mark and Dave have not done this. Neither of them said "every person in this city/state is an idiot". At that point the comment would have included you AND themselves, but that was not the case. If I was to moderate this forum every time someone felt a crack was being insinuated, I would never get any sleep. If all the Mormons of the world register and are a part of this forum, then at that point I would moderate any comment made toward a Mormon. However, my most logical choice in moderation has been to ONLY concern myself with active forum members. (Translated: if a particular person is not an active member or EVERY person in a particular group of people, be that "group" a company, religious organization, the government or just whatever constitutes a "group", then I don't worry about it.) That's the way it has always been and will continue until a better alternative comes along that will not turn this forum into such a politically correct place that it becomes annoying to read. That being said, I do feel Greg is right that "there are bad apples in any church you want to name", so perhaps the guys could please tone it down a notch. I don't think they made the comments to be intentionally insulting. 
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Dave Williams
Wet nipple scene

Posts: 1836
From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 07-04-2002 06:32 PM
Sorry to hear about any death. I take death very seriously, but I also make very sarcastic remarks regarding it as well. I do with just about anything I talk about.I will point out that while I do make anti-republican remarks, I am in fact republican. Also while I do make anti-mormon comments, I am also very very mormon myself. I was born and raised a mormon. I have served in my ward primary, sunday school, and elders quarum presidencies, as well as ward clerk. It is just like all those black comedians who make sarcastic jokes about black people. I am most decidedly not Anti-Mormon however. Although Mormon, I am also Agnostic, and very, very sarcastic about my own upbringing. I do apologize if it offends anyone, and in the future, will try to make sure that any posting has the disclaimer "I AM A MORMON" attached to it. I do love the life here in Utah, although I am a native of California. California isn't nearly as interesting as Utah politically or religeously, but there are more earthquakes there. As for electrocution, I have known two very close friends who have died by it, so yes I understand. I myself have had enough voltage and amps pass through me to run a projector for a decade. I have had very close friends die from all sorts of things, ranging from cancer to cement trucks. This does not keep me personally from laughing at lifes little quirks and foibles. I do not laugh at death, but I do stare it down in the eye and send it on its merry way. I make fun of my own brushes with death. The first when I had my brain tumor, the second when my car flew 200 feet off of a cliff, the third when I fell 90 feet rock climbing, the fourth and fifth during bouts of pnuemonia with temeratures exceeding 106, the sixth when I was hit by a jeep and thrown about 60 feet landing on my head, the seventh when I fell down two flights of concrete stairs and cracked my head open, and probably others I cannot remember at this time. You see I take this death thing very seriously. When I learned of the possibility of people getting killed copying something from this movie, I myself was personally shocked that the studio would not see this coming. I also however recognize that todays child and teen population is grossly uneducated and vastly unsupervised. It would be shameful if anyone died trying this stunt. My comment was meant totally in the interest of sarcasm and comedy. I do not wish for the death of anyone at all, ever. Not even that evil man who raised me from a pup and keeps asking me over for christmas. So once again Greg, please understand I meant nothing serious by it, and I am sorry than any inferrence was taken that it was serious. From your kind and humble servant of god (brad miller), Dave
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Gerard S. Cohen
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 975
From: Forest Hills, NY, USA
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 07-04-2002 11:15 PM
Dave, When you write of your "sarcasm" and of being "sarcastic", I think you're being too hard on yourself. I take most of your comments to be "satire" and you, "satirical."When Jonathan Swift wrote his "Modest Proposal", advocating a solution to the population problem in British-controlled Ireland, he advocated the fattening of Irish babies for the English dining table,and he included detailed recipes for the chefs. This had the desired effect upon the British public, awakening them to the suffering of the Irish by famine and misrule. Swift is considered a master of satire, whose positive purpose is to improve understanding or society; sarcasm, on the other hand, seeks to wound in a way that is cruel and offers no rebuttal. I consider you a satirist! As for emoticons, sadly many readers seem to need them to recognize satire. Especially for those newbies who "tuned in late", don't know the writer, or need gesture and winks and nods to convey true meaning. I printed Brad's emoticon chart twice, and misplaced it both times, and never seem to realize one can open a second window and work from that, so I usually think "to hell with cutsie-poo--if they don't get my meaning, it's their problem." That's a lazy rationalization, though. I should use them when in doubt. Gerard
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Dave Williams
Wet nipple scene

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From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 07-05-2002 02:23 AM
Thank you for your support Gerard. Yes true I am hard on myself when it comes to sarcasm, as I do consider myself rather thereof. As for satire, I thank you for your belief in me as a satirist. Perhaps I will adopt that as my new rational for bieng.Naw. Brad, I am dizzlecksik!! I CANNOT READ OR WRITE!!! I am just like about every average american male that throws away the instructions because "I know how to work the dang thing"! However, sadly, as most american males go, I have no clue how to program a vcr, much less read important documents. I just figured because I am so damn funny and all that I can do whatever the hell I want to. YA, RIGHT! Dave
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Mark Gulbrandsen
Resident Trollmaster

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From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 07-05-2002 01:31 PM
Greg, I made no unbridled and insensitive statements about Mormons any place in my posts. I would not do that here or on any other forum. I am engauged to a Mormon gal, I work with some really nice people that ARE Mormons(some by their own choice are no longer Mormon though). The Main street issue will always cause poking at, and making fun of, the "church" in one place or another. What happened there is appalling to say the least. That land, that block of main street, belongs to me, to you, to Dave, and everyone else that posts here. It is public land plain and simple. Not something that can just be sold off by some corrupt politicians........ While I pretty much stay away from politics I have to chuckle again about Mayor Andersons statement the other day that billions of dollars have been spent on improvements in downtown Salt Lake City and no increase in usage, no increase in shopping sales, etc., has come out of it. Well again you can thank the Mormon Church and their backwards ways for that too. Geez man the sidewalks roll up at 5PM on Saturday for almost all buisnesses here. Few, if any useful stores are open on Sunday except the large chains. So, of course, making use of all this nice new downtown shopping space on days when folk have time to use it is for naught. Apparently, our Mayor, and the previus one, are indeed VERY stupid for ever promoting and building all this billion dollar space in the first place. Da, if ya can't use it how will it ever make money?? Indeed, living here really is a hoot!! The folk that run this place account for alot of that hoot.... I too am very sorry about the death of your friend. Its a horrible way to go I'm sure. I however take death quite differently from many. To me, when its your time, its your time. At that point most likely, someone far more powerful has more important work for one to do than hanging out here on planet earth. Mark @ GTS
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