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Jonathan Worthing
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From: Hereford, UK
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 07-12-2002 04:52 AM
I know that it was a terrible thing to happen due mainly to stupidity, but I cant believe that people think that stupidity deserves the death penalty.If that is so there would be a lot of people on death row. What is the mental state of this woman. There are people in this world who abuse children. All they get is counciling, not the death penalty & they a fully aware of what they are doing. Death is not the answer.
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Jason Burroughs
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From: Allen, TX
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 07-12-2002 06:32 AM
Annother similar instance happned 2 days ago in Ft. Worth, TX We had at least 3 children die from being left in the car in the D/FW area last year alone.From the Dallas Morning News: Last modified: 03:12 PM CDT on Thursday, July 11, 2002 Mother charged in baby's car death 07/11/2002 By JIM DOUGLAS / WFAA-TV The mother of the 9-month-old boy who died of heat exposure surrendered to Fort Worth police Thursday morning.
27-year-old Jessica Estrada says she accidentally left her son, Lorenzo, in the car Tuesday morning. She is charged with criminally negligent homicide, which is the lowest classification of a felony charge. Ms. Estrada arrived at the jail surrounded by her family and clutching what appeared to be a baby blanket. She was escorted by a Fort Worth police detective. A short time later, Ms. Estrada posted a $2,500 bond and left the building with her family. The National Safe Kids Campaign, in reviewing records since 1996, found at least 150 children have died from heat stroke after being left in a vehicle. Nine out of 10 of the victims were age 3 and younger.
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Leo Enticknap
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From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 07-17-2002 08:30 AM
If I understand it correctly, the US states which impose the death penalty only do so for first degree murder, i.e. a deliberate and premeditated act of killing. This woman was stupid and reckless beyond belief, but she did not set out to kill her children.I oppose the death penalty for two reasons: firstly, if you execute an innocent person then you can't reverse that process, and secondly because it is contradictory to have a law which says that premeditated killing is wrong unless the government does it. Those who oppose the first argument would point out that if executing one innocent person saves far more innocent lives (either becuase of a deterrant effect or because a murderer cannot reoffend after being executed), then that's a net gain. But opposing the death penalty does not mean being soft on criminals. I've often thought that some of Britain's nastiest murderers lead a far too comfortable life in jail. If I had my way I would lock up the likes of Myra Hindley and Harold Shipman in an underground jail in a remote location, in solitary confinement (i.e. no visitors, no TV, ever), for the rest of their natural lives. As for this awful woman, she should certainly be locked up for a very long time. But ultimately we have to recognise that what she did is not as 'bad' as if she'd deliberately set out to kill her kids.
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