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Mike Schindler
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I have a couple Magnavox speakers which came in a box with my first Pro-Logic receiver for my FL/FR channels, a couple of KLH speakers for my two rear channels, and a really nice Sony speaker which I got on sale for $125 at Best Buy for my center channel. I used to have an Aiwa subwoofer, but I figured the neighbors probably wouldn't appreciate that too much. I'm high-end.

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Adam Fraser
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Steve,
I also had a pair of Altec 604 E's hooked to my sound set-up for a couple of years. Some of the cleanest and most complete sound that I have ever heard from a speaker. But, they went to a good home via e-bay for about $1,000/pair when I was short on cash (college is expensive). Someday I'll have another pair.

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Steve Guttag
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The 604K are also quite nice, I have the 604G. The 604K have the Mantaray horns.

JBL has their LSR series of monitors...the little one is the LSR-25P that is like a high-end control 1 but bi-amped and has built in amplifiers!!!

Steve

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Mike Olpin
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I absolutly LOVE the 8330. (wish i had a pair of my own!) Most of the theatres I went to when I was a kid had them.

On a slightly related note:
A few of the theatres used a seperate JBL suround speaker with the 8330. They were really small and looked kind of funny. Mann seemed to use them in their 80's theatres. The only theatre left in my area that uses them is the Mann Hazard Center 7.
What model number are they? Do they just take care of the high end?

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Steve Guttag
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Mike, what do you mean by "used a seperate JBL suround speaker with the 8330."?

I pretty much know the JBL product line of the past and present. The 8000 series started as utility foreground music systems. The 8330 was the out-growth of the 8325. The 8325 was nearly identical to the 8330 in components but did not have a cinema EQ on it and it arranged the drivers in a vertical orientation.

A little more on the JBL lore...the "8" was the 8000 series (kinda like we have the 3000, 4000, and 5000 series stage speakers), the "3" was to signify a 3-way, which the 8325 and 8330 was. When the next speaker came out, the 8340 and 8333, they blew their naming convention since both were 2-ways but were given the higher number to signify superiority. To make matters worse, when what is now known as the 3310 came out, it was initially designated the 8310 to keep with the same series (8000) as the other surround speakers but was changed to the 3000 series (entry level cinema) instead.

Some used the 8216 as a surround speaker in smaller cinemas (2-way and quite small). Perhaps that is your funny little speaker?

Steve

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Adam Martin
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I prefer the JBL 90210.

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Jason Black
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I must be confusing myself with this thread. We currently use 8330's as surrounds in all houses. Or might I have my model # wrong?

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Manny Knowles
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Hey, Steve: Is it possible that they got the initial inspiration for the first digit ("3" for screen speakers and "8" for surrounds) based on the typical quantity used in an installation?

Is there a way to make sense out of the model numbers they assigned to the transducers? What's really the difference between a 2035H and a 2226H? I wanna know, dammit!

For Jason: JBL 8330's are intended as cinema surround speakers and you could indeed have them in all of your theatres. How come you were thinking that you got confused?


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Jason Black
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I guess I got a little conflustered when I sped-read Steve G's post.. All those numbers...

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Joe Redifer
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I doubt 8330's have enough range to be used as front speakers in the home. And I HATE sending the low end of the front speakers to the sub. Combine that with the discrete subwoofer channel and you just have too much sub going on. Lame. Fortunately each of my speakers in my home theater speaker can shake the room, even the surrounds. They are all KLH. My surround speakers have a better dynamic range and frequency response than theater surround speakers. They are floor standing. Not those teeny tiny little things you get in "Home Theater in a Box" packages. JBL 8330's or 8340's simply cannot shake da room. I also have a subwoofer that only reproduces sound meant discretely for it.


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Scott Norwood
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Joe be boom shake shake shakin da room.

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Ian Price
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I'd be proud to run either one as my main stage channels & surrounds in a home cinema or video application. I have heard 8330s used in a film screening room as main stage channels to great effect.


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Joe Redifer
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Scott-
Word yo.

If I had a smaller room the 8330's would probably be perfect. I know the 8330's sound a teeny bit better but lack the power handling capability of the 8340. But I'm sure da difference iz marginal.


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Manny Knowles
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First, a big bulge. Now, it's a big room.

What a showoff!


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Justin McLeod
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Why only 100 watts for pink noise testing and 200 watts for continues programming?


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