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Pete Naples
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1565
From: Dunfermline, Scotland
Registered: Feb 2001

posted 09-03-2002 03:14 PM

The guys in our workshop have shortened Westrex pedestals where necessary, there's one in the Manchester are that I had to get practically lie on the floor to align the 'A' chain on.

There's another anomoly in the Lake District, basically they took the top of the pedestal, with the beam and adjusters etc, welded it to a huge gallows bracket and bolted the contraption, with Westar and Orcon lamp to the booth back wall! Has to be seen to be believed.

Good luck with the adapted engine stand Sam!

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William Hooper
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1879
From: Mobile, AL USA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 09-04-2002 01:03 AM

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Part one of my Pedestal project.

Excellent. Remember when you're running Bourne Identity to loosen the screw on the engine stand head & slowly rotate the projector to test the audience members for motion sickness sensitivity.

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Sam Hunter
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 779
From: West Monroe, LA, USA
Registered: Jan 2002

posted 09-04-2002 08:43 AM

Thats a good idea but I was going to chop the top collar off and raise the thing about 4 inches and weld a mounting plate on it.

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David Rigby
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 134
From: Chorlton, Manchester, UK
Registered: May 2002

posted 09-04-2002 11:45 AM

On the subject of pedestals, I'm wanting to stick castors on the Vic 4 I recently acquired. Can I just use normal heavy duty castors or will they collapse under the weight?

I could really use something with brakes too!

David

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John Pytlak
Film God

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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 09-04-2002 12:19 PM

Casters usually are rated for weight-bearing ability:
http://www.castershop.com/catalog.htm
http://triopines.com/capacity.htm
http://www.superior-components.com/p8.htm
http://www.tandemloc.com/casters/m_cstrs_pneu_dual.htm

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Bernard Tonks
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 619
From: Cranleigh, Surrey, England
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 09-04-2002 06:45 PM

The old Simplex stands were fairly lightweight and movable compared to many other projector pedestals. However one did collapse on me during a show, and nearly half of the picture finished up showing in the orchestra pit. This was with a Standard Simplex double shutter (front & rear) projector head, RCA 9031 soundhead, and a Peerless Magnarc. The top spoolbox was resting on the wall, the noise of the crash frightened the living daylights out of me. The Gaumont Kalee 21 base must surely be the heaviest made, known as Elephant’s Foot or The Queen Mary!

David,

I used eight casters with brakes obtained from Radio Spares UK, for a Westrex double sided tower, which surely fully loaded must have been one hell of a weight, and there was never a problem.
www.rswww.com

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William Hooper
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1879
From: Mobile, AL USA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 09-05-2002 12:52 AM

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Thats a good idea but I was going to chop the top collar off

Okay, but don't forget to include *some* method for adjusting the projection angle. If you mounted it transversely, you could use the collar joint to go from drive-in to high-dive angles.

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Sam Hunter
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 779
From: West Monroe, LA, USA
Registered: Jan 2002

posted 09-05-2002 08:42 AM

If I need to change the angle I would just add shims between the bottom of the sound head and mounting plate. But I don't think I am going to need to do it but if I did that would be one way to do it.

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Paul Turner
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 115
From: Corvallis, OR, USA
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 09-05-2002 09:37 PM

It seems like you've decided on the engine stand. However, I think a motorcycle lift might make a good, adjustable-height base. You have four points on the floor and it rolls. I used one to set my fully equiped sound rack in place. As i was scooting it out from under the mounted rack, I slid it next to my projector and had a "Woah, Look at that" momment. If it'll hold my 800# full dress Harley without a wiggle, it should be able to handle a projector, sound head, and lamp. M/C lifts run a little over a hundred bucks in most discount places.

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Sam Hunter
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 779
From: West Monroe, LA, USA
Registered: Jan 2002

posted 09-06-2002 08:37 AM

Hey Paul,
My rig has four points as well and also has metal wheels on it so it will move. As far as adjustable height, that's not a problem. I am only going to use this for a short while until I move into my next place in a year or two then I will go whole hog and install a real four point pedestal, lamphouse, 6k reels or maybe a platter, sound system. Hell, I might even outdo Brads cinema

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By that time I will have found me an 68 Chevy C10 pickup I can rebuild so I will need my engine stand back.

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Sam Hunter
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: West Monroe, LA, USA
Registered: Jan 2002

posted 09-12-2002 06:33 PM

Phase one of my project has been completed. Pretty good results.

Waiting on the BX80 to show up now.

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