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Mike Schindler
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Steve's post reminded me of a shot in Mikhail Kalatozov's I AM CUBA, in which the camera starts in a roof-top club and ends in the swimming pool downstairs. There's also a lot of less elaborate, but still very long shots in that movie, most of which use an extremely short lens.


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Leo Enticknap
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Mike Schindler writes:

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ROPE has a few intentionally visible cuts. I believe they occur at each reel change.

Actually the reel changes are designed to look invisible. The outgoing camera pans or tracks into a dark area (e.g. the back of someone's suit jacket, or a dark wall), there is a cut and then the new camera pans or tracks away from the same position.

I think you're right and that there are one or two visible cuts: I seem to remember one towards the end during the sequence in which the camera's POV is responding to James Stewart's description of how the murder was perpetrated. According to Hitchcock's own account (in Hitchcock by Truffaut) the biggest logistical nightmare was the sound recording. It was done directly into an optical sound camera, so all the mixing had to be live and in real time. Apparently there were more rejected takes because of sound issues than there were due to botched camera movements.


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Mike Schindler
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The first time I saw ROPE was a 16mm screening at the Art Institute of Chicago. I remember having heard about how it was designed to look like all one shot, and wondering how they were going to accomplish the reel changes. I also remember being disappointed upon seeing that each reel changed with a standard intentionally visible cut to another shot. But that was seven years ago, so my memory could be faulty.

However, I decided to watch the DVD tonight, and I kept track of when and how the cuts appear. Here's what I found:

2:08- visible
11:43- invisible
19:33- visible
26:50- invisible
34:00- visible
43:57- invisible
51:32- visible
59:19- invisible
1:09:26- visible
1:14:03- invisible

I also happened to watch CLERKS tonight. If anyone cares, that shot that I referred to earlier is five minutes and twenty six seconds long.

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Leo Enticknap
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I've just flicked through Truffaut, in which H insists that the only cuts are the camera change ones, all of which he tried to conceal.

Could the unconcealed cuts in your DVD be due to later cutting, e.g. censorship? I notice that your last cut, which I presume is to the end credits, comes at 74'03". My 16mm print runs 81 minutes, which on PAL video would mean 78ish allowing for the 24/25fps difference. If your DVD (which is presumably NTSC and thus has the same running time as the film source it was telecined from) runs 75-ish, might it be that the 'visible' cuts are the work of a third party?

I'll have to look at my 16mm again soon, though I don't know when I'll get the time.


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Mike Schindler
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The last cut that I listed is to the last shot. The film on the DVD runs a little over 80 minutes. The cuts which appear in the film are definitely meant to be there. Many of them are sort of reaction shots to the previous ones. Also, if these cuts were made because of censorship, then, based on the length, that would mean that the censors would have taken out every other invisible cut. This seems rather unlikely. I'm pretty sure that some of the video transfers have the cues for the reel changes on the print. If anyone has one of those, we could get a definitive answer, one way or the other.

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Ian Price
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From the 29th Telluride Film Festival 2002

RUSSIAN ARK

Hitchcock dreamed of making a film in a single take, but Alexander Sokurov, thanks to HD video technology, accomplished it. RUSSIAN ARK is a 96-minute dream journey through St. Petersburg’s Hermitage, three centuries of Russian culture, 33 rooms and 2,000 extras. A French Marquis guides us, commenting in Russian art, interacting with historical figures (Catherine the Great, Nicholas and Alexandra), all the while responding to the dreamer’s often-incredulous reactions. This is an startling departure from the austere earlier films of Sokurov, who was a Telluride tributee in 1998. The Film’s final sequence-a Royal Ball of 1913 with hundreds of resplendently costumed dancers-eclipses even Visconti’s THE LEOPARD as perhaps the cinema’s richest evocation of the aristocratic culture of Europe in its fading hours. Brilliant. You’ve never seen anything like this. Filmed by Steadicam operator Tilman Büettner (Run Lola Run). (Russian, 2002, 96 Minutes)

I wish I had seen it. It sounds like fun.

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Mike Schindler
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I just thought of two other music videos which are all one shot. Definitely Paul Hunter's video for the untitled D'Angelo song. That one's one shot, and it's great. Another which is one shot with a few shots laid on top of it is Sinead O'Connor's NOTHING COMPARES 2 U by John Maybury. That might not count, but it's still very beautiful, mainly because of that one shot.

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