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Topic: New 70mm print of RYAN'S DAUGHTER
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Leo Enticknap
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From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 11-05-2002 05:03 AM
quote: ...and some of these new prints have been made directly off the original negatives resulting in very impressive image quality.
That will certainly give you a beautiful print, but using the camera negative to directly strike a release print is endangering the long-term preservation of a film. No film preservation professional would allow that to happen, certainly not in the case of a big-budget studio feature which remains a valuable commercial asset decades after its production, unless [s]he was ordered to from above. Just imagine what would happen if your camera negative jammed in the printer and mangled a few feet, or a negative splice came apart, or a piece of grit became lodged in the printer and gouged an emulsion scratch! OK, you've got to take that risk in order to duplicate a film at all, but the camera neg - interpos - dupe neg - print sequence of generations is intended to reduce that risk by ensuring that the camera negative receives as few passes through a printer as possible. If it is indeed true that very well known wide format productions are being printed straight from the original negative, this is surely very short-term thinking. OK, going through two more generations might add $10-20k to the cost, but isn't it worth that to insure against damage to a production which cost tens of millions of dollars?
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Michael Coate
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From: Los Angeles, California
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posted 11-05-2002 10:44 PM
quote: That's the understatement of the last century. There were far more than just a few 70mm films that were blow-ups from 35mm that followed Ryan's Daughter. MANY more.
That's for sure! Try: hundreds more.... Let's see...alphabetically.... Absolute Beginners The Abyss Adventures In Babysitting Air America Alien Aliens Alien 3 Altered States Amadeus Apocalypse Now Back To The Future .... Just kidding! I'm not going to list them all. 
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John Pytlak
Film God

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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 11-06-2002 10:30 AM
AFAIK, "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" used 8-perf 35mm for many of the effects shots: here here here here here In general, a larger format (VistaVision or 65mm) might often have been used for optical effects work so the graininess and sharpness of the EFX scenes were a better match to the "live action" photographed on 4-perf 35mm. ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: +1 585 477 5325 Cell: +1 585 781 4036 Fax: +1 585 722 7243 e-mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com Web site: here
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