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Adam Martin
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 - posted 11-16-2002 09:21 PM      Profile for Adam Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Adam Martin       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
and then actually calls them

That would be hilarious. Ten seconds into the first trailer, every single cell phone in the room starts ringing!

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Brad Miller
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While I'm against cell phones ringing during the movie, I can see a legitimate reason to permit it. No one is immune from an emergency and I think it is taking away from someone's right to prevent contact. However that is a 1 in 100,000,000 shot, so at that point what is the right thing to do since cell phones have become such a problem?

Back in the days before theaters turned into mega-ludicrous-plexes, when someone would come to the theater and ask me if there was a way for their babysitter to get ahold of them, I would give out the box office line and find out where they were seated. I probably did that at least once a week for about 5 years (until cell phones became so commonplace) and I can only recall having to go find the parents twice. That could never work in today's complexes though.

Bear in mind, if theaters block cell phones for some reason, many people will NOT go to the theater and use Blockbuster instead. I would expect parents of young children to be at the top of that list.


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Paul G. Thompson
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My Kyocera 2135 (supplied by Verizon) has the vibrating mode. Feels strange when I have the phone stuck in my back pocket when it goes off. Feels like I was getting stung in the butt by a bee.

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Lionel Fouillen
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In Belgium, it is common for all theatres to show 35mm commercials prior to the feature film (we don't use slides). Mixed to those, there is a trailer (so projected in all theatres, regardless of circuit) showing a crowded auditorium. Two persons are disguised as mobile phones, seated at opposite corners of the theatre. They're shouting at each other then finally say "OK, the film starts, let's switch off now". They press a button on their chest and fall asleep. Then the trailer displays a message "Don't forget to switch your mobile phone back on when leaving the theatre".

There was also a commercial from Nokia to promote their latest model, specifically made for cinemas, that said "Make yourself heard, but NOT at the theatre...".

The Kinepolis Theatres circuit also has a trailer for uneducated people who abandon their empty pop-corn bucket or drink cans on the seats or aisles after the show. It is an animated cartoon showing spectators eating and drinking during a projection, then throwing their empty stuff on the floor. The camera then shows the theatre screen where you can see a dragon in the film. The dragon suddenly peers at the audience and belches flames at the dirty spectators. Then you see the spectators completely black with burnt ruffled hair bashfully picking their trash and putting it in a garbage can near the theatre exit door.


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Thomas Procyk
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There's a fine line between taking away someone's right to contact, and taking away someone's right to gab to their stupid friends as if they are in their own home.

There was this lady with a talk radio program in South Florida who was bitching to all hell about New York's phone law. (This was last year, btw) She was saying how her "business" relies on people to call in, and if a law like that passed in Florida where people aren't allowed to drive with cell phones, then her business is ruined! Well, she's been on the air since well before cell phones became mainstream, and seemed to be doing fine then. I don't understand why some people think that their cell phone is this lifeline that has to stay attatched. By the way, in the three hour program about the cell phone law, she got a total of only 4 calls from idiots on cell phones on the highway.

My old high school in Royal Palm Beach had banned students from bringing cell phones to school. Sound reasonable? One would think. SO MANY parents complained that they were not able to "Contact their child" because they weren't carrying their cell phone, that the school was forced to retract the rule. HELLO!!! Call the office and have them get your kid to the office phone. Not that important? Then you shouldn't be calling your kid in school.

Speaking of school, it seems college students lack the same manners. At least once a day, a professor for a class that I paid $350+ for is interrupted as some moron's phone plays some moronic tune over and over. The person who it belongs to is too embarrased to reach into their bag or purse to turn it off, so they leave it ring.... and ring... and ring.... Some even answer it to explain to the caller that they are in class. Perhaps it makes them feel important, like saying "I'm in a meeting right now".

=TMP=
Never owned a cell phone. Never will. Refuse to get a job that makes me carry one.


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Joe Redifer
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Do they even make cell phones that ring anymore? All of the ones I've heard lately only play a retarded jingle. That is waaaaaay more annoying than a simple ring.

To anyone who needs to play a jingle on their cell phone instead of a ring: I hate you for that reason alone!

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Randy Stankey
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Whatever happened to saying, "Hey, buddy! Would you take that phone outside, please?"

No! We have to pass laws, put up signs, make everything illegal and, if that doesn't work, we have to have some $1,000,000 technological solution to a problem that COULD have been solved by the utterance of seven simple words!

The same goes for talking on the phone while driving. If just ONE insurance company denied a claim for damage because the driver was talking on the phone I GUARANTEE people would stop doing it in a heartbeat!

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John Hawkinson
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It occurs to me that the prime benefit of the "box to make everyone's phone ring" is that of being a deterrant -- it encourages those people whose phones did _not_ ring to to turn theirs off, anyway.

So, perhaps an approach would be to simulate this situation, by playing some EX-encoded sound that makes it appear that a number of phones are ringing all throughout that theatre, ideally without stopping the non-sync music. If it doesn't appear too contrived, then perhaps it would convince the audience to really turn off their phones, too.

--jhawk

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Gordon McLeod
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I gues the libertarians forgot my right after purchasing a ticket to a uninterupted presentation
And if some one is on call or standbye and says they need there cell on stay at home then

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Leo Enticknap
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The problem here is a cultural one, IMHO. As Ian mentioned, British trains have notices suggesting that you 'use your mobile 'phone with respect for others'. They also have one 'no mobiles' carriage in which you're not supposed to use them at all. However, this is universally ignored. Compare that to smoking. All but one of the carriages are no smoking (and Virgin trains are entirely no smoking). However this rule is almost always respected. You see people using mobiles in the no mobiles carriage, but no-one attempts to smoke in the no smoking carriage. Neither are laws, but are simply rules imposed by the train companies.

Personally I hate mobile 'phones and if weren't that I needed to be contactable by work, I'd cheerfully throw mine off a very tall bridge. I'm obviously in a minority though, because people continue to use them in ways I find antisocial. But (with the exception of using them whilst driving), passing an actual law against them would be going too far. What I would like to see is the use of signal blocking devices being legalised so that the things just won't work in areas that are designated as mobile-free zones

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Bob Maar
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If I am in a theatre, or a public spot I place my phone on vibrate I hit the button to bring on voice mail, I will not answer it in a theatre, museum, church, on a bus or train. I am annoyed by people sitting next to me yelling into their phones. You know, people that care do the right thing.


People who don't care should be exterminated. [Wink]

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Martin Brooks
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quote:
There was this lady with a talk radio program in South Florida who was bitching to all hell about New York's phone law. (This was last year, btw) She was saying how her "business" relies on people to call in, and if a law like that passed in Florida where people aren't allowed to drive with cell phones, then her business is ruined!
That is a totall bogus argument! The current law in New York does not prevent the use of cell phones while driving. It simply requires the use of a hands-free device, like a headset. This is also kind of bogus because it doesn't stop anyone from dialing their phone, only from holding it up to their ear.

As far as cell phones in the theatre is concerned, I'm with those who feel that if anyone's phone rings, they should be ejected from the theatre and there should be signage as such. People who must be contacted in an emergency can get a phone with a vibrator, which most phones have today anyway. It amazes me that not only do idiots let their phone ring in the theatre, but then they actually sit there and carry on a loud conversation. It's only a matter of time before frequent fist fights (or worse) break out over this kind of extremely rude behavior.

For this reason alone, I no longer mind going to cinemas that are constructed in basements (like the Angelica or the Crown (formerly Loews) New York. Cell phones don't work down there.

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Leo Enticknap
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The problem is that ejecting someone from a theatre cannot be done without disturbing other customers (unless the offender is sitting next to an aisle). Furthermore, identifying the offender might not be easy in a dark room which is densely packed with people.

I can't see any reason why signal blockers can't be legalised just as long as their range is effectively limited to the premises using them.

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John Hawkinson
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Fundamentally, signal blockers penalize polite cell phone users. Those of us who consider ourselves in that category are somewhat against the idea of penalizing polite users in order to penalize rude users.

--jhawk

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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I used to have a sign at the end of our runway that read, "Property protected by shotgun 2 days a week. You guess which ones."

I wonder if the same theory could be applied. [evil]

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