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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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Last I checked, for Bell Sympatico one-way satellite, it was $60 CDN for 60 hours PLUS the cost of a dial-up account.

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Adam Fraser
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Here its $60-80/mo. unlimited access for a 2 way satellite and purchasing about $600.00 worth of equipment and modems.

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Lance C. McFetridge
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I use the starband system. Only problem is when snow builds up on the dish. I have been extremely happy with the download times and upload is a great deal faster than dial-up. About $70/ month but I networked 5 computers in my house and now the phone actually rings when they are all on.

lance

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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Mount your mini dish LNB on a 10' C-Band dish and you'll never have to worry about snow. [Smile]

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Paul G. Thompson
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OK...is this worth looking into, or is just a "come-on"?

MSN is partnering with other companies to offer Broadband services starting November 12, 2003. Companies partnering with MSN are Verizon, Qwest, SBC, Bellsouth, Charter, Directway, Comcast, and Sprint.

Please be informed that the availability of Broadband in your area will not necessarily be connected with MSN, the results are all broadband service offered in your area based on your address and home number.

The monthly subscription cost will depend on the phone company that offers Broadband DSL in your area.


I don't know if this is what is being discussed, but I have to do something about the dinasour technology I have in my area. The modem dial-up just plain sucks the big red one. [Mad]

Looking further, it is Satellite. It is available....but the so-called Standard Plan (up to 500K download) has a set-up fee of $599.98 with a monthly fee of $59.99.

I guess I just answered part of my question... [fu] [scream] [sex] [bs] [puke]

NOT with a 100-meter pole!!!!

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John Pytlak
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Hey, I thought delivery of digital data was FREE! [Roll Eyes]

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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Delivery IS free, receiving it'll cost you a fortune.

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Paul G. Thompson
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Yeah, Daryl....I have one thing to say about MicroShaft's solution...."B" as in Bull and "S" as in Sugar...There is no way I will pay 699 smackers for some funky horse's butt slip-shod service that probably does not work...especially in sunspots... [Smile]

On Honeymoon night, a certain lady discovered why a certain CEO called his company "Microsoft".... [Big Grin] [evil]

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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By the sounds of that somewhat scatter-brained article, it sounds like MSN is only providing mail service and authentication. The actual access would be provided by your local provider.

They say costs depend on your phone company... which is weird, since the $600 setup cost would tell me that it's two-way (FCC regs require 'professional' installation) satellite, which wouldn't require a dial-up account.

If it's one way, a $600 setup fee is stupid, especially when most mini-dish TV companies will install a dish for free. Even then, it's much easier to do it yourself. It'll take all of five minutes to point the thing in the right direction, a few more minutes to secure it to something.

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Adam Martin
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We used to have Starband's satellite crap here. Download was mediocre and upload speed was less than my dialup account. Our current piggyback on the box office's 192k dsl connection is much better and vastly more reliable.

I wouldn't wish satellite internet on my worst enemy.

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Jack Ondracek
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Because of the distance between our house and the street, I had to get the cable company to run their drop to my main screen, where I have the cable modem & a router. I use a radio link to get the data to the house.

Just prior to that (and am I glad I didn't go that way), a salesman from Direcway stopped by to see if he could "hook us up". Not wanting to get stuck with the $600+ install and whatever service term might come along with the deal, I asked him for some local installs where I could actualy see this marvelous technology in action. He gave me one name, then went away... and I never saw him again.

I checked with his "reference". They reported pretty much what's on this thread... lousy throughput, sensitivity to weather... and airplanes flying through the path.

The local Radio Shack told me that they'd sold both services (Direcway & Dish)... They got so many complaints... all directed at them (because they were the storefront)... they yarded it all out & used the display furniture to hold DVD players.

If you can't get DSL from the phone company... IDSL from some outfit like Covad, ISDN or cable service, this might be your only alternative... but from the look of it, you'd have to be pretty desperate...

... like Paul! [Razz]

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Dave Macaulay
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It isn't just the "country" that gets shafted. The only satellite user I know has a company in an older commercial/industrial area in Toronto. The cable company flatly refuses to run a line to him - even though a Future Shop with their service is about 150M away. The telephone wiring is old and the exchange is quite a distance away, so DSL is not available. The CN tower is over the horizon and a tower to see it for the local microwave internet service is prohibitively expensive.
Getting a dedicated T1 line or similar costs a huge amount to install plus a high monthly lease charge, plus ISP costs.
So he has satellite internet. As well as the already mentioned problems, the service as supplied was already NAT subrouted, so he couldn't share it in his office. Not mentioned before the installation was the extra charge for a real routable IP number.
He's just waiting for any reasonable alternative to be available.

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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Running ZIP disks back and forth between your location and your ISP, by foot, is often faster. Seriously.

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Phil Hill
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Hmmm...for some reason I envision the scene from "Used Cars" where they hijack the satellite feed....I mean, it is a cost-cutting measure... [beer]

>>> Phil

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Scott Norwood
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Daryl--true, but the latency sucks. (Of course, the same can be said of satellite internet access.)

Does anyone actually still use zip disks?

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