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Topic: What is new with the restored "SEVEN SAMURAI"
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Paul Linfesty
Phenomenal Film Handler
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From: Bakersfield, CA, USA
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 03-02-2003 09:01 PM
Claude, number one, re-read my post carefully. My point is that we do seem to expect the world to see everything through OUR eyes, but we don't seem to extend the same courtesy in seeing how the world sees us. If my original post was unclear, I apologize for that.
And second (sorry, its NOT the end of discussion. That's a moderator's call) if you will re-read my post, AGAIN, I indicated I fully understand how the term is offensive to you. My point is that the term does not have the same negative meaning where the poster lives. And there is nothing wrong with you educating him to how the term is offensive to you. However, you seem to insist that he had to have known that before you let him know your feelings, and I just don't think that is fair.
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Per Hauberg
Jedi Master Film Handler
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From: Malling, Denmark
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 03-04-2003 10:25 AM
Dear Claude - Dear everyone
No wonder, there is war somewhere in the world every day.
My use of the expression "jap's" was not ment in any bad manner at all, but used as i would refer to my own people as "danes".
If the conversation in these forums has to be held in pure diplomatic style, with culture consulents correcting every word before posted, not to step on anybodys little toes, the moderators will be having a tough time in the future.
I have never meet a live japanese human being, but i have with pleasure been running every Kursosawa-film available, during my 30 years in this chair. The films of Akira Kurosawa sure have learned me, that traditions and proudness is counting more in Japan than most other places in the world (no offense to the rest of the world !), but am i all wrong, when i think, that not only Mr Kurosawas civil wars, but also Pearl Harbor is quite long ago, and both people and life and the world has changed quite a bit since then.
My parents also learned me, that germans were bad people - because of the war going on in our part of the world in the early forties, but heaven forbid, danes and germans should be throwing rotten tomatoes at each other so many years later.
Even if the world has been getting smaller, starting when Jules Verne wrote about Phileas Fogg, culturel differences still exists and will, as You just demonstrated it, someday call out a Doktor Merkwürdichliebe/Dr. Strangelove (can i mention a certain Texan now without getting banned ?) to push the red button. What danes want, is PAX, clean socks in our shoes and a less confronting difference between politeness and pompousness.
I hope, i - in spite of my bad english - have made it clear, that there was no harm ment in what i wrote, and that i do not find, that i owe any particular member of this honored forum (no matter his background) any apology at all.
All the best
Per Hauberg
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Per Hauberg
Jedi Master Film Handler
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From: Malling, Denmark
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 03-04-2003 07:24 PM
Not that I really want to fan the flames, but if I just shut up my big mouth, I'm ignoring things, I'm told. Therefore one last word from the cold North:
Paul:
An old Perspecta track transferred to some kind of discrete stereo --wasn't that what happened to "Fantasia" ?
The first mag prints of "F" were still featuring the original orchestra recording. -Then later on came a new recording for the first Dolby Stereo release (about 1980 ? - but that's another story), and if I am not all derailed (no offense ment towards to any railroader amongst us !!), the latest prints had the original music once more, but this time cleaned up. -Am I right ??
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Michael (Schaffer)
I sincerely do hope, You know the exact mening (including possible mis-interpretation)of those foreign sentenses of Yours.
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Claude
The water underneath You is now so deep, that I in no way can or will stay serious about this whole matter. Do let a pro help You with that past of Yours - and Your arrogance; -Then as soon as possible give Paul an apology, and last: Before getting us all put in the penalty box, when Brad gets home from the great trade show, please be kind enough to check the indication of time on as well Your own march 4th. posts as mine. That ought to outdo Your latest attempt on me.
Do rest assured, that even without Your apology (which I do not expect and definitely could not use for anything, either), there will be no hard feelings: I will continue showing the films of Mr Kurosawa as often as possible and enjoy every foot, allthough I must say that this, my first, encounter with the 2003 oriental codes of honour and politeness not excactly increase my wish to learn more about other cultures. -But as long as I can see, the feelings are mutual, it helps !
A very good friend of mine made a speech at my 50th birthday, claiming that I am as sensual as a pre-menstrual faggot. In our culture, not even words like these comes out of disrespect, nor does anybody get offended. -That's what highly educated danes can say to each other, when they are just polite and kind rest of the way - And we sure are. Believe me - who should know better... ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Not being of enough arrogance to believe that I, as a private, barely english-speaking member, can stop this kindergarden show, I humbly suggest we all hush up the sidetrack and get back to "Seven Samurai"
Thus written on wednesday, march 5th., 02.09 in the morning - local time, hoping that peace and big smiles may again take the lead at the Film-Tech Forums AND very much in the hope, that I did not offend anyone (else). I did not mean to ! -Honest !!
Per Hauberg
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Michael Coate
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From: Los Angeles, California
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 03-04-2003 07:25 PM
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Stereo was rarely used by the Japanese at the time except two pictures that was produced by Masaichi Nagata and released by his Daie Studio. The pictures were two of Japan's only 70mm films. One of the film was "SHAKA" which was about the life of Buddah and the other one was "THE GREAT WALL" about the first emperor of China who built the Great Wall of China to keep invadors out.
Both of those titles, Shin No Shikotei (aka The Great Wall) and Shaka (aka Buddha), were included in the "Presented In 70mm" filmography, of which I was a contributor, published in Widescreen Review Magazine a couple years ago.
There was at least one other 70mm production from Japan, a short produced in Super Technirama 70 whose title escapes me at the moment. I saw a private screening of the print a couple years ago, and it looked fantastic!
While there doesn't seem to be much evidence that Japan produced very many genuine 70mm films, in the 1960s and maybe into the 1970s they appear to have run a TON of 70mm blow-ups, including a number of American and European productions that played in 35mm here (You Only Live Twice, Hell In The Pacific, Once Upon A Time In The West, etc...)
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Strange as it may seem, both pictures played in Honolulu's new Kokusai Gekijo (Theatre) in mono and 35mm scope at the time and the theatre was equipped for the latest 70mm and stereo equipment. Like the Toho, no pictures played in stereo in this theatre as far as I know.
I'm unaware of any U.S. screenings in 70mm (commercial engagements anyway) of those two titles, so I don't think it's all that strange that they played in 35mm in Hawaii.
Re Hawaii theatres. When I was in Hawaii (1986) I was very impressed with the number of theatres in Honolulu that were everything an avid movie buff could ask for: (1) many large single-screen and twins were still in operation, (2) many were well-equipped with 70mm projection and/or Dolby Stereo and/or HPS-4000, (3) they were playing a couple of films in 70mm at the time, (4) many were within walking distance of one another. At the time, I thought I would have withdrawals going a whole week away from my beloved Westwood Village! I was pleasantly surprised by the movie situation in Honolulu at the time. (I can't comment on what it's like now, and never mind I shouldn't have been seeing so many movies on that "vacation"!)
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Paul Linfesty
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From: Bakersfield, CA, USA
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posted 03-04-2003 09:51 PM
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An old Perspecta track transferred to some kind of discrete stereo --wasn't that what happened to "Fantasia" ?
As far as I know, FANTASIA never had any kind of Perspecta release. The original 1940 release contained a three optical-track stereo double system that was reproduced in the theatre as 6 channels (stage L,C,R,L wall, back wall, R wall)that was switched EITHER by a live person in the theatre OR by notches cut into the side of the 35mm soundtrack film that operated the switches. I've read some articles that mentioned the former and some the latter (for all I know, maybe both methods were employed at different sites).
The 1950's SuperScope version was in mag stereo, with a transfer from the original 3 tracks. This transfer was done over PHONE lines! And then the original optical stereo masters were apparently destroyed. Buzz from those phone lines became a permanent part of the soundtrack until it was digitally cleaned up.
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Claude S. Ayakawa
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From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 03-04-2003 10:24 PM
Michael,
Honolulu at one time or another had a total of nine theatres that was capable of playing films in 70mm. Out of the nine, there is only one remaining and it is Pacific's (Consolidated) Kahala #1. The Kahala is not a old theatre having first opened about 20 years ago as part of five theatre multiplex complex at the Kahala shopping mall in east Honolulu. It was not set up for 70mm when it first opened but received it from another theatre when it closed. I think that theatre was the old Royal in Waikiki. As far as I can remember, I think the Kahala only played one film in 70mm at it was "GOOD MORNING VIETNAM" All of our other 70mm theatres played films on a very regular basis especially the Cinerama. One of the nice things about the Cinerama was the 70mm festival they would have at least once a year. The theatre was one of few that was able to play film like "AMADEUS" and "GETTYSBURG" in 70mm when prints were limited to big cities such as Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Chicago, New York and Toronto. There might have been a few other cities but these are the only cities i can remember. The Cinerama also played all three of the original "STAR WARS" films in 70mm. When it came to picture and sound, nothing can touch the Cinerama because it was Honolulu's best movie theatre. The Waikiki Twins became Hawaii's premiere movie theatres with the finest picture and sound after it was renovated with new seats and a brand new top of the line HPS-4000 sound system. Now that these grand movie palaces are gone, going to the movies is not as exciting as it used to be.
Paul,
I saw a mag print of "FANTASIA" at the old Queen Theatre here in Honolulu either in the late fifties or early sixties and sound wise, it was the best presentation of the movie I ever heard. One part of the film I remember is the "AVE MARIA" sequence at the end when the voices of the chorus would first come from the rear of the theatre and pan to the front. The film must have been remixed differently after that because there is no panning of sound from the rear surround speakers anymore even with the latest 5.1 SRD mix.
-Claude
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