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Mike Heenan
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 - posted 03-02-2003 10:53 PM      Profile for Mike Heenan   Email Mike Heenan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I think the Clintons kept some furniture or something like that but later gave it back. Another thing I remember was that the W's from all the keyboards were missing.

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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 - posted 03-02-2003 11:00 PM      Profile for Claude S. Ayakawa   Author's Homepage   Email Claude S. Ayakawa   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Mark,

I do agree with you about the Democrats in congress of not being focused on the nationl agenda. Although President Clinton was having problems with Republicans, his fellow democrats in congress also caused him a lot of grief. One classic example is the NAFTA agreement that he was successful in getting passed with mostly Republican support. The majority of the American people supported NAFTA and I did too but all of the major unions in the country opposed the bill and a lot of congressional Democrats listened to the Unions instead of the people when it came time to vote. Although I would like to see a Democrat in the White House in 2005, all of the announced Democratic candidates that are running are no different than Mr. Bush when it comes to the possible war with Iraq and have no solutions of their own to turn the economy around.

-Claude

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Sam Hunter
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 - posted 03-02-2003 11:37 PM      Profile for Sam Hunter   Email Sam Hunter   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I wonder how much of a difference it would make if Bush 43 was a better speaker? Ole Clinton was pretty good at speeches.

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Jason Black
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 - posted 03-02-2003 11:57 PM      Profile for Jason Black   Author's Homepage   Email Jason Black   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sam,

Slick Willie wasn't necessarily good at his speeches, as any President has his speechwriters lay it out for them... Unless, of course, you revert to the statement "I did not have sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky" which, had to been thought up all on his own.. or mayeb with a little influence from Hillary.. She wore the pants anyway.. [Eek!] [Roll Eyes]

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Sam Hunter
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 - posted 03-03-2003 12:04 AM      Profile for Sam Hunter   Email Sam Hunter   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That was a trick statement. [evil] Heh Heh
One then that sticks in my mind other than my finger was how he used his hands, you remember, the thumb was cradled on top of his pointing finger.

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Randy Stankey
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 - posted 03-03-2003 09:01 AM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
In many/most jury trials, the jury pool is selected and then the lawyers and the judge sit down and go through the jury list. The interview potential jurors as needed. Each side gets a set number of "challenges" with which they can eliminate candidates.

A peremptory challenge is one where the lawyer doesn't need a specific reason to eliminate a candidate. (S)He can simply say, "Peremptory challenge", and the juror is out. It doesn't matter if there is a good reason or if he just doesn't like the way the guy combs his hair.

A challenge for cause is where the layer has to say why he wants the juror out. Prior contact with the defendant/victim/witnesses... Conflict of interest... Exposure from the media... stuff like that. The other lawyer gives his reasons for NOT eliminating the person and the judge makes the decision.

Each side has a limited number of challenges so it sometimes gets to be a situation that feels like the final minutes of the Super Bowl where the coach is trying to use his time-outs to the team's best advantage.

Any lawyer worth his salt would simply eliminate him from the panel with a peremptory challenge. No explanation needed.
If the lawyer didn't want to use a peremptory (for strategic reasons) he could challenge for cause on the grounds that such a public figure as an Ex-President would unfairly sway the rest of the jurors. You'd have a situation where it'd be like there was only one juror. Either, everybody else would vote with him becasue he was the President or everybody would vote AGAINST him for spite because of his poor public image. Either way, it wouldn't be a trial anymore. It would be a Bill Clinton popularity contest.

Furthermore, a judge would have the power to eliminate him from the pool even before jury selection takes place. He could say that having the President on the jury would bring undue negative media attention to the case, thereby making it impossible for the accused to get a fair trial.

No... I don't think Clinton will sit on any jury for a while, if ever. It's good enough that he is in the jury pool. It shows that he's trying to be a "good citizen"... Unless, of course, Bill gets his lawyers to get him out of it! Then it's back to being "Slick Willy"!

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Will Morrow
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"For me, its just difficult to believe that someone as dishonest as Bill Clinton is would ever be earmarked for Jury Duty."

Yeah I wonder how many men that have cheated on their wives and lied about it have been chosen for jury duty. One or two? WHATEVER! We all know it was wrong, but we also all know it happens all the time. How long will it take for this to be dropped? The dead dead horse can't take a beating much longer. :-)

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David Stambaugh
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Are you saying there's no difference between the average Joe Blow* cheating on his wife and then privately lying to her about it; and the President of the United States lying to the country while UNDER OATH?

*Just picking a name at random. [Wink]

I have no problem with Bill Clinton getting jury duty except it seems like it would be a major distraction to all parties involved in the trial process.

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Hillary Charles
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I remember Ollie North proudly declaring that he lied to Congress under oath regarding the Iran -Contra scandal (a bit more important than a BJ), and afterwards he was seen such a hero that some wanted him to run for President.

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Greg Mueller
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I guess always returning to the blow job is a good way to distract people from the real issue. But the fact is that Slick Willy was not impeached for getting a blow job from the pizza girl. And in my opinion anyone that refers to that issue is just trying to dodge the real issue. I'm sure both sides would like to forget about the BJ, but Slick's "legacy" will follow him forever.

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Charles Everett
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Just as Slick Willie goes off for jury duty Hillary shows her love for King Bush and his crusade.

Let's see, that's 2 chicken hawks in the coop with a 3rd . . .

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