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Paul Linfesty
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That means that the big chains are getting around 20 to 25 percent of the boxoffice take.
During the first couple of weeks, maybe.

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Jack Ondracek
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Paul, are you raising sheep now as a sideline? [evil]

Both our '98 Cretors kettle replacement and our new Diplomat have the "corn first" label.

Coconut Oil Forever!
Oh... and plenty of seasonings!

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Paul G. Thompson
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I think all new machines have that label affixed now.

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Peter Schoell
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I have to agree that I think you need to heat the oil first, then add the oil. I've never heard of any other deep frying situation where you would add the food before the oil. I have two older Creators poppers that don't have the "order label" and two newer ones that do have it. I'm sure the label was created by Creators legal department. The legal dept needed to to do something to protect their liability because people seem to be getting dummer each year. When a company can get sued and loses to a guy who hurts himself when he tops his hedge with a lawnmower then any lawsuit is possible. Add to that the fact that for every person who wants to sue, there are 2 lawyers ready to do the hit.

Pet peeves. The fact that Hollywood has convinced the public that if they don't see a movie in the first two weeks when it's at the top of the sales charts, the movie isn't worth seeing.

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Darryl Spicer
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There is a little difference between a deep frier and a popcorn kettle. with a deep frier you are putting the food in a basket and lowering it into a vat of hot oil. You still run the risk of the hot oil burning you if you do not lower the food in properly.

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Paul G. Thompson
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Peter said:
quote:
The legal dept needed to to do something to protect their liability because people seem to be getting dummer each year.
Pete, you got that right. Our popcorn salespeople today were born with a computer hanging out of their butts. Unfortunately for many, they don't have any or very little common sense. Too many don't know how to read, write, add, subtract, multiply or divide basic small numbers in their heads. Many don't even know how to count money. They depend on a machine to do that for them. [Mad]

But they do know how to multiply in a different sense.... [Big Grin]

It reminds me about a time I had in woodworking class in high school. We had all these beautiful machines to do the work for us, but I could not use them to plane a board straight. The teacher told me he detected my problem. When I asked what the problem was, he put his hands on his hips, looked at me squarely in my eye and said, "You believe too much in push-button age." Then he turned around and walked away. His message was one of inspiration and really made me think.

This was in the year of 1957 at Lincoln High School in Manitowoc, Wisconsin.

He was right. That teacher was Harry Olestad, who later turned out to be a very good friend of mine until he passed away several years ago.

His words still echo in my mind today just as loud as they did when I was 17 in the year of 1957.

Do you see the similarity with today's people, even though it is 46 years ago I was told that? They believe too much in the push-button age.

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Tim Reed
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Darryl said,
quote:
You need to remember you may be able to get away with the oil first popcorn second on a cold popper.
Not in my experience. I've always seen it oil first... from the first kettle-full to the last.

Sounds like you may have a thermostat problem if it's getting that hot.

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Paul G. Thompson
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Tim, check the specs on the kettle temperature (average) and check the specs on the oil's flash point. I think you will find that they are dangerously close to each other, especially when the thermostat is ready to cycle off. [Wink]

After you do that, think about the safety of your people who make the popcorn, and the human error margin as well as the mechanical error margin of the thermostat. Thank you. [Smile]

When it comes to the possibly of human injury, there can be no compromise. Safety first.....there is no other way. I learned that in the United States Navy. [Wink] [beer]

Maybe I am arrogant....but when it comes to the safety and welfare of other people, I am proud of it and I am not going to change my attitude towards that. [Razz]

Furthermore, if one of your kids was seriously hurt by an oil fire because of operation procedures that were over-written locally to operate equipment instead of actual operating procedures by the equipment manufacturers, you will have to live with that the rest of your life if you dictated that deviation.

I am not willing to do that.

So be it. I stand firm on my convictions, period. End of story. Safety of your personnel first, even though you might think the odds are in your favor.

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Michael Cunningham
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Ah, sorry Dustin, I guess when even your General and District Managers tell you things like this for so long you start to believe them without proper scepticism. Thank you for the link to Regal's earnings statement, I suppose I should have done some research work for myself before flying off the handle. [Smile]

- Mike

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Tim Reed
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No, Paul, not at all. Nothing wrong with being safety-minded. I'm one of the most cautious people out there, it's just that I've never heard of, or experienced, the kind of problems that you guys are talking about. I don't doubt it happens.

[Smile]

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Paul G. Thompson
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Cool. [Smile]

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Dustin Mitchell
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Michael, no problem. I believed that for a long time, until I saw Carmike's financial statements.

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John Carpenter
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Nothing about corn & oil here...
And leaving out the obvious moronics things with TES...

My "beef" - Having to play trailers for a film you KNOW you are not going to open, even if it is next week!!!

Don't you love competitive markets [Roll Eyes]

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Christian Appelt
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LOW IMAGE QUALITY

Most prints are not sharp enough, look unsteady and grainy.
Too many defects from high-speed mass printing done wrong, like color shifts, terrible lab splices. Many US films get [fu] ed up beyond recognition in foreign release by low-quality dupe negatives delivered to European labs.
Insufficient photography with high-speed films, shooting wide-open, too much telephoto shooting, incompetent use of Super-35 amount to this:

MOVIES NEVER LOOKED WORSE ON THE BIG SCREEN [Mad]

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John Pytlak
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If you get a print that has obvious lab problems like safelight fogging or silver soundtrack blotches, or other "upstream" image quality issues, let the distributor know of your dissatisfaction.

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