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Author Topic: Need a New Monitor for the ol' Computer. Matt Hale Expert Film Handler Posts: 123 From: Vancouver, Canada Registered: Dec 2002 posted 05-16-2003 02:31 PM                        If you are looking for a ViewSonic, look for an equivalent Optiquest instead. Optiquest is owned by ViewSonic and is their OEM brand. Same models, same factory, same company, different sticker, lower price. Sometimes it takes a while for the new, very high-end ViewSonics to appear in the Optiquest line, but they all do. I used to sell them in past life, in fact I'm using an Optiquest V95 right now. edit: woo-hoo! 50th post!  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 05-16-2003 04:45 PM                        My problem with the Viewsonics is what appears to be a ridiculously low refresh rate. I want to run 1280x1024, but am limited to 66Hz? That, my friends, is absolutely pathetic. The bigger models go higher than that, but they are just too damn big. 17" would be the max I could have... actually it would be perfect. The one good thing about LCDs is that you can have the refresh rate at 60hz or 600Hz and there will be absolutely no onscreen difference.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 05-16-2003 05:02 PM                  Joe, My refresh rate is 120Hz. The NEC model I have is no longer available...there is a new version. My setup is also great for 3D with LCD glasses. >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Matt Hale Expert Film Handler Posts: 123 From: Vancouver, Canada Registered: Dec 2002 posted 05-16-2003 05:35 PM                        I have not seen a 17" monitor of any brand made in the last 10 years that couldnt do 1024x768 @ 75Hz at least, and the vast majority will do 85Hz or better. How old is the video card you are using? If its ancient that could be one explanation, or if its not the driver might not be installed properly, or you are using the wrong driver. 66Hz is pathetic.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 05-16-2003 05:39 PM                        No I am looking at the specs for the monitors themselves online. They say things like "1280 x 1024 @ 66Hz max resolution" etc. I know the refresh rate would go up if I used 1024 x 768 like I am using now, but I would really appreciate the larger screen real estate. My video card is quite recent. My Mac is less than 6 months old.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 05-16-2003 05:45 PM                     Do NOT go with the Optiquest brand. Not if you are doing "mission critical" work where color is important. The Optiquest line is comparable to Viewsonic's lower end series of "value" monitors. You're not getting any representation of the Professional series of CRTs. I've been using the same Viewsonic P815 21" monitor for my home system for about five years now and it still runs great. The monitor is one heavy SOB though! It weighs nearly 80 pounds! I had to buy a $700 AnthroCart desk 36" deep to hold it and a 12" X 12" graphics tablet. The monitor has the previously mentioned wire aperture type screen and a top resolution of 1800 X 1440. The monitor's refresh rate at 1600 X 1200 is 91Hz. Of course, I paid over $1300 for this thing when it was new. Unlike newer CRTs, this monitor features two series of ports. You have the standard computer port. But then Port B is a series of five separate component jacks (separate jacks for Red, Green, Blue, H-Sync and V-Sync; along with a jack that looks like an ethernet port). Viewsonic models that have replaced the P815 feature screen resolutions up to 2048 X 1536. LCD screens are still slow and not fully accurate for color sensitive work. If I were working for a photo archiving company or some other place where color control was absolutely critical, I would probably spend extra for a higher end monitor from Barco, Radius or Lacie. Many top end CRT monitors will come with a colorimeter included to adjust gamma and make Colorsync and/or ICC profiles. Sony makes a really cool 24" 16X9 widescreen CRT. I think you can buy that one for under $2,000. Speaking of monitors that have dropped under the $2,000 level, Apple's Studio Cinema Display (a 23" LCD flat screen with 1920 X 1200 rez) is available for $1,999. That's $1,500 less that what it cost just a few months ago. If cost is no object, you could spend $8,000 for that 9.2 megapixel LCD monitor offered by Viewsonic. Still, LCD screens are primarily good for solving desk space problems. For industrial level computing (graphics, CAD, video, photo retouching, etc.), you're better off with a CRT.  |  IP: Logged Matt Hale Expert Film Handler Posts: 123 From: Vancouver, Canada Registered: Dec 2002 posted 05-16-2003 05:49 PM                        Oops. I read that wrong. I thought you said "1024 x 768 @ 66Hz" not 1280 x 1024. Most of your cheaper 17" monitors will only do 66Hz at that res. My Optiquest V95 is currently doing 1280x1024 @ 85Hz and yes, its on a Mac, but I think its a 19". I remember last year LG was making some nice little 17" units that could do up to 120Hz refresh. They were a Flatron flat-faced tube, which is not quite a trinitron but is very close and a heckuva lot less dough. LGs are not nearly as crappy as they used to be either.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-16-2003 08:43 PM                     No Thanks! Every Apple has a worm in it! Mark  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 05-16-2003 11:20 PM                        Coming soon from Kodak and its partners, Organic Light Emitting Diode (OLED) displays: http://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/display/index.jhtml http://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/display/cbitChip2003.jhtml http://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/display/kodakAndOEL.jhtml OLED Color and Luminance Coming soon to a monitor near you.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 05-16-2003 11:30 PM                  While the OLED appears to be a good idea on the surface, time will tell how it performs over time. I AWAYS get a little nervous when I see the word "Organic". That implies a finite life much shorter than is useful. >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 05-16-2003 11:46 PM                        I am sitting in front of a Samsung Syncmaster 700p right now. It will stay behind when I move to the New World (too heavy, 230VAC). I have always been very happy with Samsung monitors. They also have a good warranty standard. I assume that it will be the same in the US as here. They pick up defect monitors at your home and provide you with another one. I had never fail one on me though. But a friend of mine had, and he was very happy with their service. I think the warranty is 3 years.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 05-17-2003 02:29 AM                  Michael...WE don't care.... >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 05-17-2003 02:31 AM                        Michael is moving to the US? Crap. I'm moving to Germany.  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 05-17-2003 07:05 AM                        I forgot to mention that in addition to the good service, Samsung monitors also have a very good image quality and can easily be run at high referesh rates. Yes Joe, I am moving to San Diego next week. Sorry. Maybe I should open a new topic to warn people that I am coming next week. That would give them at least a fair chance.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 05-17-2003 02:09 PM                     Texas and other states are going to get awful crowded over the next few months! Michael, will you be coming to our little gathering the first of next month?  |  IP: Logged

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