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Author Topic: Tim Burton To Remake Charlie And The Chocolate Factory Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 05-26-2003 01:33 AM                  Another example of the "new" Film Makers attempting to re-capture to magic of the original. I HATE that! It seems like the current crap of filmmakers (Ooops! I mean "crop") can not think or be creative on their own. There have been too many re-made pics that make me This sounds like another! >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 05-26-2003 09:33 AM                        Oh c'mon Phil, don't give me that horseshit. We have great classics like The Hulk, X2, T3 and the like. You know full well that Hollywood kicks ass and has lots of original products. I'll see you in line for Matrix 3.  |  IP: Logged Don Bruechert Mmmmmmmmm, bird! Posts: 340 From: Manitowoc, WI, USA Registered: Jan 2003 posted 05-26-2003 10:58 AM                        I thought the original was kinda cool - I saw it when much younger several times. Now I can watch pieces and parts of it in passing, but don't think I could sit through the whole thing again. I'm not really sure a remake would add anything to this story, but I DO think that Robin Williams is a much better choice for a "kids" move (i.e. Hook) than Jim Carrey. Williams can be a pig, but he has a wide variety of talents and the ability to deliver emotional content, where Carrey is mostly dufusy humor. Even when he (Carrey) tries to deliver serious emotional content you can tell he is "acting", where Williams seems much more genuine. If this came to the screen and I had to pay money to see it I would probably wait for it to come out on Cable or something.  |  IP: Logged Christopher Seo Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 530 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-26-2003 12:45 PM                     I liked the original movie well enough, but I thought Gene Wilder was considerably more psychotic and maniacal as Wonka than the book had portrayed. Robin Williams would indeed do better than Jim Carrey and probably better than Gene Wilder as well. But at any rate, the true classic is the book (and all of Roald Dahl's books). Movie adaptations of even children's books never seem to capture the intelligence and maturity behind the story.  |  IP: Logged Dave Williams Wet nipple scene Posts: 1836 From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA Registered: Jan 2000 posted 05-26-2003 01:06 PM                        FYI... Tim Burton has just signed on to the project. There has been no formal casting and all "rumors" are just that. This will not be a remake, nor will it be a "re-imagining" like his planet of the apes film. He is given explicit authorization from the family estate that controls the novels to write it to his own contention, cast as he sees fit, and direct to his own will. He has full creative control and there will be no studio fudging with the project as that will allow the family estate to pull the project and kill the film. This will truly be a signature Burton film, even though it already is a classic in Gene Wilder form. Don't count of Robin Williams or Jim Carrey to be cast in the film, as they will likely carry creative controls on the project that would counter the authors family wishes and the creative controls of Tim Burton. Instead, look for another well known face that is more willing to work for less money, take total creative input from the director, and can fit the role with ease... Perhaps Jude Law? Dave  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 05-26-2003 01:25 PM                       Oh, forgot myself there for a minute... that'll mean Johnny Depp as Wonka. And it'll be full of Burton's obsession with darkness and death. Don, you make a good point about Williams being able to deliver emotionally. That's exactly why I thought he could work... even though I don't care for him personally.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 05-26-2003 01:49 PM                  Joe, you're right. I was generalizing and I should have been more specific. There are indeed some very creative and great original films produced in the last decade by Hollywood as well as Foreign films and independents. I was thinking more along the lines of what I consider lousy remakes of "the original", even though some of those "originals" are based on other films or even remakes themselves: KING KONG (1933) remade in 1976 ...maybe again in 2005 THE NUTTY PROFESSOR (1963) remade in 1996 THE OUT OF TOWNERS (1970) remade in 1999 POSTMAN ALWAYS RINGS TWICE (1946) remade in 1981 PSYCHO (1960) remade in 1998 THE BIG SLEEP (1946) remade in 1978 ...and many others. I don't know why I almost always think less of a remake than the original. Maybe it's cuz I'm "used to" the original. In some cases, it seems the remake tries too hard to be "up-to-date" in language/swearing/technology and it just doesn't play well to me. The only remake that I liked that come to mind is THE BIRDCAGE which I thought was better than the original LA CAGE AUX FOLLES. >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 05-26-2003 03:12 PM                     quote: And it'll be full of Burton's obsession with darkness and death. Which gives perfect validity to Burton's original first choice for the role of Wonka... Marilyn Manson. and all of the colorful wonder of the factory will look more like the Haunted Mansion... -Aaron  |  IP: Logged Ken Layton Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1452 From: Olympia, Wash. USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 05-26-2003 06:23 PM                     Oh great.... Willy Wonka Meets Beetlejuice!  |  IP: Logged Dan Lyons Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 698 From: Seal Beach, CA Registered: Sep 2002 posted 05-26-2003 06:59 PM                     Phil wrote: quote: I was thinking more along the lines of what I consider lousy remakes of "the original", even though some of those "originals" are based on other films or even remakes themselves: KING KONG (1933) remade in 1976 ...maybe again in 2005 THE NUTTY PROFESSOR (1963) remade in 1996 THE OUT OF TOWNERS (1970) remade in 1999 POSTMAN ALWAYS RINGS TWICE (1946) remade in 1981 PSYCHO (1960) remade in 1998 THE BIG SLEEP (1946) remade in 1978 ...and many others. Let's not forgot the 1976 version of "A Star is Born"! I think I'm the only person in the world that actually likes Barbra's version. The songs are great; but that's really the only good part about it! Danny  |  IP: Logged Michael Gonzalez Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 790 From: Grand Island , NE USA Registered: Sep 2000 posted 07-26-2003 10:01 PM                     Tim Reed wrote: --------------------------------------------------------------- "Oh, forgot myself there for a minute... that'll mean Johnny Depp as Wonka. And it'll be full of Burton's obsession with darkness and death." --------------------------------------------------------------- Johnny Depp Leading Candidate To Play Willy Wonka Pirates of the Caribbean star frontrunner for remake... Johnny Depp is the leading candidate to play Willy Wonka in the upcoming remake of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Tim Burton will be directing the remake which will be titled Charlie & The Chocolate Factory. Credit: Variety Well Tim it appears that you may be correct  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 07-26-2003 11:06 PM                       Hey, Michael! What do ya know about that? I guess you can judge a book by its cover.  |  IP: Logged Robb Johnston Expert Film Handler Posts: 147 From: St. Louis Suburbs Registered: Nov 1999 posted 07-27-2003 12:54 PM                        Daryl, I don't think that the movie was a combination of the 2 books. If I recall, Great Glass Elevator begins with the Elevator landing at Charlie's house and recounts the adventures that Wonka, charlie and his whole family experience, including a visit to the land where the Oompa Loompas come from. I think there was even a run in with a Voracious Knid, or whatever it was called. It has been at least 15-18 years since I read it. They just thought that Willie Wonka made for a better title than Charlie . . .  |  IP: Logged

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