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Topic: How Did You Ex-Smokers Quit Without Relapse?
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Gary Crawford
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 200
From: Neptune NJ USA
Registered: Nov 2003
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posted 08-23-2006 01:09 PM
Sunday morning, Jan 2, 2005, awoke to severe chest pains and a heart attack, quick and efficient response by emergency personnel, nice ride in an ambulance, four days in the ICU.
All things considered, it was minor, but still a heart attack.
During my stay the roof of the hospital opened and a big hand reached in and smacked me in the head and asked, "NOW are you listening?!?"
I was. Haven't touched a tobacco product since, going on a year and nine months now.
Withdrawal probably happened while I was feeling terrible anyway and didn't notice it.
Tempted? Sure I am. But I won't do it.
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Bruce McGee
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1776
From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular.
Registered: Aug 1999
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posted 08-23-2006 05:53 PM
I dont know how I missed this thread the first time around. I enjoyed reading what you all had to say.
I do miss Paul.
As for me, I tried my first and only cig when I was around 9. It made me totally sick, and I heaved. I ran home. My dad, who was a heavy smoker that quit cold turkey after 60 years, told me that I shouldn't start smoking, and I didn't. My mom is a non-smoker. I have two sisters, and they look even better than me, and they dont smoke at all. I'm surprised that we never did start, too. In the day, I liked the smell of a lit cigarette. Now, they just burn my eyes.
I have a 20 year old car, and a 23 year old truck. Nobody is ever allowed to ride in my car or truck and smoke. I have lost friends, that I obviously didnt need, to this rule. My vehicles dont smell like smoke either.
After my near-death phneumonia attack in December 2005, my roommate stopped smoking in my house. I have an electronic air cleaner on my furnace, and by the time I came home in March, 2006, there was zero smoke smell in my house.
My roommate has cut his smoking to 10% of what he did before I got sick. He's about to stop totally.
Another heavy smoker friend was in a car accident in February 2006. Had a lung collapse. Doctors told him to stop NOW or risk all kinds of problems in the future. He didnt smoke at all for about 5 months. Now, he's back to 3 packs a day, and his bad lung is full of mucus. His doctors are giving him the worst possible scenarios, but he is a wuss, and cant stop, and is acting like he is entitled to get money from the government to help him kick the habit. He wouldnt listen to me, or anyone else, when he was whining about wanting cigarettes again.
Before he re-started, he had about 50% capacity in his weak lung. Now, he has less than 10%. AND HE STILL SMOKES. ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."
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From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 08-23-2006 07:22 PM
Yep, that doesn't surprise me. My boss' older brother (our CPA) had a collasped left lung a few years ago. The doctors told him he would eventually contract emphysema, COPD or lung cancer and die if he didn't get his shit together and quit. The guy is still smoking today. He's pissed about it. He wishes he could quit. He even gripes about the fact all tobacco companies spike their cigarettes with the most addictive formulas as possible. In the end, you just have to quit.
Both my parents managed to quit back in 1977 when cigarettes were quite a bit stronger and more socially acceptable.
It's funny this thread was bumped up back into relevance. Our sign company has been undergoing a major office renovation. During that time of transition I don't think I've ever been more angry at filthy scumbag asshole smokers than ever before.
We had some plumbers come out to do work on our new bathrooms. New carpet had already been laid down since that contractor had a very limited window in which to do the work. These plumbers were in this brand new office space smoking away. Not only were they dropping their fucking cherries on the floor, the brain dead son of a bitches were actually doing that fuckhead asshole behavior common to so many smokers: dropping the finished cigarette right where they stand and stepping it out. The cocksuckers were stepping out their cigarettes on OUR BRAND NEW FUCKING CARPET!
It's a good thing for them I don't take my gun to work with me. I would have seriously thought about shooting them in the face for that asshole infraction. I tried my best to think about other less sadistic fantasies, such as throwing a non-lethal pail of water in the face of an offending smoker (preferably as he was just lighting up).
In the end, we billed those fucking plumbers for the carpet they ruined. They paid too. I kinda wish it was 24K gold threaded carpet, that way those filthy fuckers could be poor forever.
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In case anyone has any confusion of how I feel regarding smoking: IT IS NOT COOL AT ALL! It is a filthy shit-stained habit. Futher, I (and no one else) should ever feel the need to be impressed by that dirty, stinking, unattractive, filthy-assed habit.
Sincerely, I hope the price of cigarettes gets boosted to $100,000 per pack. Perhaps then maybe some folks will feel the need to quit and ease the strain on the out of control cost increases in America's stupidly insane version of socialized medicine.
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Charles Greenlee
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 801
From: Savannah, Ga, U.S.
Registered: Jun 2006
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posted 08-24-2006 12:33 AM
And you're better off without. Lower insurance rates, don't have to buy the cigs anymore, better health, etc. I have friends that smoke, and I respect their desicion, its their choice as long as it doesn't affect someone else. However, I agree, there are the ones that want a 10min smoke break every 30min, and us non-smokers, try to get that, translated to ummm a fresh air break, or drink break, denied. And you also have the ones that pull the bone headed moves like Bobby said. Not all do that, but alot do. Smoking may not say much either way about someone's character, but actions like that say that they're inconsiderant and sloppy to say the least.
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Anslem Rayburn
Master Film Handler
Posts: 476
From: Yuma, AZ, USA
Registered: May 2002
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posted 08-24-2006 06:27 AM
Some interesting links about quitting smoking and addiction :
First (you have to scroll down to get to this part) : from WhyQuit.com
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* Nicotine is a psychoactive drug whose "high" provides a dopamine "aaahhh" sensation and an adrenaline rush. Would you have been able to tell, within 5 minutes, whether the gum or lozenge you'd been given contained the nicotine equilivent of smoking two cigarettes or was instead a nicotine-free placebo? So could they. A 2004 study found that NRT studies suffered from massive wide-spread blinding failures (May 2004)
* A nicotine smoker's natural odds of quitting for six months, entirely on their own, without any products, procedures, education programs, counseling or formal support is roughly 10% (June 2000)
* Those using the over-the-counter (OTC) nicotine patch or gum as a stand-alone quitting tool have only a 7% chance of quitting smoking for six months (March 2003)
* Up to 7% of OTC nicotine gum quitters are still chronic users of nicotine gum at six months (May 2004). Question: isn't 7 minus 7 still zero? (May 2004)
* 36.6% of all current nicotine gum users are chronic long-term users (May 2004)
* You truly would have to be a superhero to quit while using the nicotine patch if you've already attempted using it once and relapsed. The only two patch user "recycling" studies ever conducted have both shown that nearly 100% of second-time nicotine patch users relapse to smoking nicotine within six months (April 1993 and August 1995, see Table 3)
* 91.2% of all successful long-term ex-smokers quit entirely on their own without resort to any product, procedure or program of any kind including hypnosis, Zyban, Wellbutrin, acupuncture, magic herbs, laser therapy, or the nicotine patch, gum, lozenge, spray, or inhaler (ACS 2003)
* Education, understanding, new skills and serious support can more than triple your natural six-month odds of 10% (April 2003)
* Those who refuse to allow any nicotine back into their bloodstream have 100% odds of remaining nicotine free today! (Today, Tomorrow & Always!)
Second, click ]here to see how addictive nicotine is (according to one study).
I am a smoker, and have quit a few times, only to un-quit. It gets harder every time. I have the best luck when I quit drinking at the same time. Alcohol makes me want to smoke more.
I have about 4 cigs left right now, and I will smoke those this weekend. I am then going to try and quit drinking and smoking together. Quitting the booze is not all that hard for me, even though I love it. Not smoking is difficult, even though I hate it, but it's easier if I don't go to bars or drink at parties. Hopefully I can do it after thinking about it hard over the last month. This thread cropped back up at a perfect time, as it really gave me motivation after reading all the posts here. Coupled with a rash of smokers I know that have developed cancer over the last six months, I am confident that I can be stronger this time, and overcome my weakness. Hopefully I can post here again in 6 months or a year and report that I am smoke free.
I tell people all the time that it is a nasty habit that I wish I had never picked up. I was against smoking all growing up, and my mom quit after 35 years, cold turkey. She was surprised I started, as I was a big opponent of smoking. Things happen, and I wish I could go back 10 years and kick my own ass for ever lighting up. I can't, so I go forward and try to fix this fatal flaw...
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Will Kutler
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Posts: 1506
From: Tucson, AZ, USA
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 08-24-2006 11:55 AM
When my Old Man was 6 months old (1931) Grandma had Whooping Cough, the infection having spread to him. This Whooping Cough developed into a VERY SEVERE life-long asthma affliction which really hampered his ability to physically function.
Back in the day, many of these illnesses were not very well understood. People with these illness were looked upon as parihas, many people being scared that afflictions like asthma were somehow contagious.
Anyhow, so was the case with my Dad...even treated badly by his immediate family.
So, in the late 1940's-early 1950's, as a means of exhibiting his anger and rebelliousness he started smoking. He had his cigarettes, cigars, pipe, and chew! I think he smoked for close to 30 years. And his smoking did lead to emphazema, along with the asthma!
To give you an example of the severity of his asthema, my Dad and Grandmother (since 1942) would travel back and forth from Cleveland, Ohio to Tucson, AZ where Tucson Medical Center was the lung treatment center in the US (for asthmatics). Throughout his life he had difficulty maintaining employment simply because employeers would never know if he would be at work that day...or in the hospital for several weeks...or even months. Even when whe moved to Tucson after his early-forced retirement from the U.S. Post Office (1975) we knew the emerengcy room staff and regular medical staff at Tucson Medical Center on a first-name basis. For my Mom and I being at the hospital on a regular basis became a routine part of daily living.
Anyhow, when I was 1 year old, his doctors told him to quit smoking or he would not survive another year. He quit cold turkey...everything...on the spot w/o any problems associated with withdrawl! Whenever he would encounter a smoker who "wanted to quit but found it too hard"...he would tell them how full of ![[bs]](graemlins/bs.gif) they were!
My Old Man passed on in January 1990, a few days shy of his 60th birthday. In the 1960's he was one of the first guienna pigs for the then "wonder drug" Prednisone. Yes, it helped him breathe, but the other crap it did to his body I would not wish on my worse enemy....his death was largly related to the unwanted side-effects of this crap!
Kutler
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