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William Hooper
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Darryl Spicer
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I remember seeing the X tag on a video for Any Worhol's Frankenstien.

That tag as a lot of us know was never copyrighted by the MPA. So it was greatly misused by the porn industry. Hence the need for the copyrighted NC-17 rating.

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Tim Reed
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Funny you should mention that, Darryl. It came from a print of "Andy Warhol's Frankenstein", at the Circle 25 D/I, in 1974! It was a practice film I used to make chemical splices with. My first splice is still in it (and still holding fast)!

That's probably the only scope version ever made of that rating symbol!

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John Pytlak
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Link to the "Film Ratings" website run by the MPAA Code and Ratings Administration:

http://www.filmratings.com

Has a search feature for the rating of any film by title, including any re-ratings. You can also search by the rating and get a chronological list.

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Jesse Skeen
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I've got some movie on video with that type of X-rating tag, but I forget what it was. I did see an old Swedish Erotica short that had the MPAA logo in the opening credits. I have an old tape of "Fritz the Cat" when it was on Warner Home Video that has an odd full-screen X-rating tag at the end (says "No one under 16 admitted.") BTW I have a tape of Andy Warhol's Frankenstein letterboxed AND in field-sequential 3-D!
When did they start doing the green bands for trailers instead of the blue bands?

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Tim Reed
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quote:
Has a search feature for the rating of any film by title,
That's the same search that's on Mpaa.org, but it won't let you search for M, or GP ratings. To get those titles, you have to list ALL since 1968, and if you do that, it lists them alphabetically by year. Would've been interesting to know what was the first M, GP, PG, etc...
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I've got some movie on video with that type of X-rating tag, but I forget what it was.
X rating strips weren't unusual, I remember "Last Tango in Paris" had one, "Fritz the Cat", and a few others. You just didn't see many in scope.

BOBBY HENDERSON... any clue as to what font the MPAA rating letters are? I've always thought they were probably unique designs, but I'm not sure. If anyone would know, it'd be you!
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Bobby Henderson
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I am certain the lettering in the MPAA logos for the "G", "PG", "PG-13" and "R" ratings was a custom designed slab-serif letter style. In searching through thousands upon thousands of fonts, I have never found an accurate match. Typestyles like Melior are close, but are still not a match.

Even the MPAA goofs up on occaision. Somewhere in my attic I have an old, folded up one-sheet of "Escape From New York". The rated R mark on that one used Helvetica Black for the "R" instead of the normal font. I have seen Times New Roman Bold, Century Schoolbook Bold and Bookman Extra Bold used for the "R" at times as well.

The font in the NC-17 rating does not match up with the font used in the other ratings logos. The "NC-17" as first seen on the art for "Henry and June" used Bookman Extra Bold. I have vectorized art for all the MPAA ratings logos, including one that approximates the "correct" ratings font for "NC-17".

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Tim Reed
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Bobby! I knew you could shed some light on this. You're right, Melior Bold is real close. If you could get it in extended bold, that would probably be close enough for government work.

Umm, errr... do you think there's any way I could get copies of those vector files from you, please? I did the rating symbol frames on the other page by hand and they're not perfect (except the X -- that's an actual frame scan), because I traced the letters from tiny jpegs I got off their website. I would've scanned one of those big ratings posters and traced from that, but I haven't even seen one for years. [Frown]

I do have good vector artwork of the MPAA logo, if you need that, and you want to trade or something.

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Steven Privett
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I didn't see "Gremlins" mentioned. I thought it was one of the causes for adding the PG-13 rating.

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Darryl Spicer
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quote from my first post in this thread.

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Temple of doom and gremlins are two films that broke the camels back in reguards to the PG-13 rating.

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Steven Privett
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oh yeah, well I never read your posts Darryl. [Wink]

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