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Author Topic: Hurricane Isabel Jason Black Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1723 From: Myrtle Beach, SC, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 09-21-2003 09:44 PM                        I'm thinking that the massive power failures are, in fact, more falicy than fact. This was a relatively mild storm with less wind and rain than that of a normal hurricane. States are looking for monies from the fed to help 'reconstruct' damaged areas. I can see where North Carolina, Maryland, & Virginia are flooded in vertain areas. What I don't see is major destruction caused by wind along the coastlines. Maybe I've not been watching the right stations? So I stand by my statement that the media overly hyped this storm. What else did they have to report on? Wesley Clark? bwaaaa haaaaaaa haaaaaaa....  |  IP: Logged John Lasher Master Film Handler Posts: 493 From: Newark, DE Registered: Aug 2001 posted 09-21-2003 10:27 PM                        We are still without power right now. I'm posting from the U of D Library, which is open until midnight (7 days a week). In our neighborhood, a tree took out a transistor box, which fell in somebody's pool and we're being told Tuesday morning at the earliest. I'm going to have to go to the Laundromat tomorrow morning to wash my clothes for work. Then I have to go to Kinkos (to print this ) then to Canons (bakery) to order the cake for the premier party on Saturday (that's why I'm printing that) by pure dumb luck I don't start until 4PM, so, OK bye.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-22-2003 10:37 AM                     quote: Jason Black: So I stand by my statement that the media overly hyped this storm. I agree with you 100%! Peeves me off! Here in stupid ol' Erie, PA the weather men were claiming that the hurricane would hit US! <cough>BULLSHIT!</cough> The thing was barely a "Cat. 2" storm by the time it hit, no? When hurricanes hit land they often lose a lot of power, no? What was left of the storm would have to make it through the mountains, no? By the time it gets a couple-few hundred miles inland it will be nothing more than a rainy windstorm! Well that's just about what happened! By the time the "eye" made it this far there was nothing left but rain. Not even much wind! Maybe 30 MPH gusts... MAXIMUM. It rained for about a day and a half. Then nothing. Heck! By the time it hit Virginia it was downgraded to a tropical storm! Some people got a LOT of water as the storm dumped its load. This was to be expected. By the time it got this far north it wasn't even a tropical DEPRESSION! It was simply a rainy day!!! Here's what needs to happen: There needs to be a BIG storm that comes out of nowhere! I want to see a lot of people IGNORE the warnings. I want to see some DAMAGE this time! I'm sorry that the people in the Carolinas will have to weather two storms but then they can sue the asses off these pansy-ass weather men who cry "Chicken Little" all the time! Just ONE big class-action lawsuit against a TV station will cure this whole thing nation wide! {A guy can hope, can't he? }  |  IP: Logged Mike Fitzgerald Expert Film Handler Posts: 224 From: Castle Hayne, NC, USA Registered: Jun 2002 posted 09-22-2003 11:03 AM                     If you have ever been thru a hurricane you would say otherwise. Floyd was only a cat 2 storm and put 3 feet of water in my house. I know people that had lived in their houses for 50 years and lost everything due to Floyd. I feel sorry for the people in the outer banks many of whom have lost all their belongings. Did the news media hype up the storm I am sure they did but was it a bad storm, yes any hurricane is a bad storm. I hope you never have to go thru one to have sympathy for the people that have lost all. Compassion goes a long ways  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-22-2003 12:36 PM                     Well, it doesn't have to be a hurricane on the coast. It could be as simple as a thunderstorm warning that went unheeded because the weather man cried, "The sky is falling!" one time too many. Albion, PA got tore up by tornados. That's only 20-30 miles from here. It was a bad scene. I know how much destruction they can cause. I have relatives who lost their house and barn. Inside was a prize team of Belgian draft horses. Ever seen a horse impaled on a tree? Not pretty! No, I don't want people to get hurt. Chalk this up as mostly a gedanken experiment. Still, I want to see some weather man FRY because he cried, "Wolf!"  |  IP: Logged Jason Black Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1723 From: Myrtle Beach, SC, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 09-22-2003 02:22 PM                        Randy I think yhou may be onto something that you're not fully aware you're onto with the whole lawsuit issue. I've realized, over the last few years, that weather forecasters are often hesitant to state *exactly* where a storm will hit. Understandably, these things are difficult to predict, but they almost *always* throw in the margin of error/hard to predict tag when stating the tracking of a given storm. I read in the paper yesterday that the tourism officials are balking at the new "5 day forecast" implemented this year (June 1, 2003). They are crying that the new 5 day will create the potential for hundreds of thousands of dollars lost in this area (and other coastal tourism areas). I'm sorry, I completely disagree with them here. If I can be given an extra 2 days to help plan a strategy to get my belongings secured, windows boarded, supplies purchased, etc.. then by all means, let me know EARLY ON. It is my feeling that those who feel that the past 3 day forecast would suffice are the same people who would try to squeeze blood from a turnip. Yes, the potential for lost income is there, but how about the potential for lives saved?? Also, how about the belongings saved? I would guess that these mean nothing? But who is it that keeps any tourism driven area afloat? The very folks who own/operate and staff the business' from the local population base! Let them lose everything in a storm and you'll find that they will often pack up and leave town. Fitz: I don't think that Randy means to lack compassion within his posts. I think, more or less, that he, along with myself, are simply tired of the media fueling widespread panic and hysteria by over glorifying potential and especially ACTUAL damages incurred from any given storm. I, too, lived through Floyd, and Bonnie, and Fran, and Bertha, and all the other hurricanes that have hit the eastern seaboard since 1993. I have been one of the fortunate ones who have not had to indure damages or loss of real or personal property. I do, however, feel for those who do. I remember the widespread road closings and prohibition on waterway traffic after Floyd. And you're right, it doesn't have to be wind damage(s) only. With any hurricane, there are generally generous amounts of rain accompanied with them. I still say that the media, in general, grossly over hyped this storm inparticular. One of the problems that I notice has yet to be mentioned... current water tables are far greater than in the last 5 years all along the east coast. This is due, of course, to the lack of rain for 5 years, then a sudden over abundance of rainfall during the first 5 months of the year. Rivers are/were, in many areas, already swollen, or at least above "normal" levels prior to "Isabel". This will, as we see now, a domino effect on towns on/near riverbanks, waterways, lakes, etc. just as it did with 'Floyd'. Towns initially flooded saw even more flooding days after the storm passed to to excessive amounts of rainfall upstate/upstream.  |  IP: Logged Charles Everett Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: New Jersey Registered: May 2001 posted 09-22-2003 06:46 PM                     quote: I'm thinking that the massive power failures are, in fact, more falicy than fact. Up to 7 million people lost power at some point. Over 650,000 in Virginia are still without power tonight. I have friends in Virginia who don't yet have their power back. quote: This was a relatively mild storm with less wind and rain than that of a normal hurricane. Pat Robertson -- whose empire is based in Virginia Beach -- prayed for Isabel to avoid his area. That pre-landfall story made the AP wire. Virginia Beach got the high winds and the widespread power failure. I lived through Floyd; I got flooded out of my house for 2 days. Floyd sent 15 feet of water into Bound Brook NJ. A motorcycle dealer in Bound Brook burned down with flood waters all around. quote: I think, more or less, that he, along with myself, are simply tired of the media fueling widespread panic and hysteria by over glorifying potential and especially ACTUAL damages incurred from any given storm. Four power companies report Isabel is the most destructive storm they've ever had. The AP has downplayed if not suppressed that story. Next time a hurricane blows through, follow the cleanup via the websites for power companies in the affected areas. That's how I learned of the destruction from Isabel.  |  IP: Logged John Spooner Expert Film Handler Posts: 186 From: South Australia, Australia Registered: Jan 2003 posted 09-26-2003 01:20 PM                     It must have been quite an event as this picture of Isabel at sea shows.  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 09-26-2003 06:56 PM                     John, that picture is NOT a picture of Isabel, or any other hurricane for that matter . What they are are 'shelf-clouds' which are a phenomenon more closely related to tornadoes and thunderstorms and not hurricanes or typhoons. Apparently this (and another pic) have been used as 'close to the hurricane' pics for hurricane Claudette and cyclone Indigo in April. Look at the pic closely: The water looks a little TOO calm for a hurricane being THAT close. Winds and seas would be VERY high at this point. -Aaron  |  IP: Logged

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