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Brad Miller
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 - posted 09-22-2003 03:17 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
FAT32 can only go up to 30 gigs or something along those lines. If you want to use a larger drive (or partition), you have to go NTFS.

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Ken McFall
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Sorry Brad but I have five 80 gig and one 60 gig fat 32 drives on my XP pro system.

Windows XP prevents you from formatting large drives but third party, and Dos, will. None of this is 'illegal' or a bodge just a windows being windows...

As for Ghost not being that good....! I use norton Ghost, boot from dos and it works perfectly time and time again. It CANNOT change your system in any way as it take an exact image of your entire drive or partition, whatever you select. It can then only restore the image in its entirity EXACTLY as it was before?

The same applies to Drive image, which I no longer use on a regular basis as I find Ghost is faster.

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David Stambaugh
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Quoting from some tech note:

quote:
Windows XP and Windows 2000 limit partition creation to no larger than 32GB on FAT32. This limitation is by design: Microsoft wants you to use NTFS for large drives. If you use Windows Me or Windows 98 to format a drive, XP and Win2K can use a FAT32 partition larger than 32GB; however, these OSs can't create the partition.
Lots of good info & comparisons of file systems & OS restrictions here: MS Technote

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Paul G. Thompson
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Ken, I disagree. I have some 120 Gig Maxtor drives and the Maxi-blast software formatted the drives to NTFS in less than 10 seconds so I could install Windows 2000 Pro which is NTFS based platform.

Adam, how would it work if the old drive was converted to NTFS and then transferred to the new drive that has been formatted to NTFS by the software provided by the drive manufacturer?

Are you using the software that was provided with your new drive? It is better and faster than the old FDISK crap. I have had poor luck with FDISK of the huge drives.

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Brad Miller
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Ken and David, thanks for the info on "phat" drives. [Big Grin]

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Ken McFall
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OK I frmat my drives normally under dos.... 80 gig is not a problem. As David say's it's a windows thing.

Misrosoft has always been heavy handed forcing people to toe the line. They decided to limit formatting drive size in XP.... in an attemp to force people to adopt NTFS.

Nothing wrong with NTFS, but I choose to use Fat32. All you have to do is format the drive using MsDos or something like Partition Magic. Once formatted XP will see and use the drive happily.

Microsoft has got itself into a bit of a tangle. They want, need, to make people move on and adopt newer technology..... but they also make a big deal of backwards compatibility.

I happen to like using Fat32 so I can get to the contents of a drive from dos if needed. I use dos to make images of my drives and to restore the images. I use dos to delete stubborn files when windows decides they cannot be deleted etc etc.

I use dos for some utilities, Dolby DRAS and CP500 software being two examples. None of this would be possible if I did as I was told and used NTFS!

So if you have a drive bigger than 32gig, use FDisk and partrition and format it in dos. Windows XP will see all of the drive and use it with no problem.

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Adam Martin
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I use FAT32 simply because I need to boot to Win98se and access the files. Otherwise, I'd use NTFS.

I used FDISK to set up the drive and booted to Win98se and formatted it to the full 30gig partition. (I did the same for the 80gig drive.)

The drive is working properly. It's XP that I'm having the problem with. It boots up fine, but I'm not able to get a logon screen.

I've tried blanking the passwords and resetting the system key to no avail.

Overnight I'll leave it re-imaging the drive again, but this time leaving the partition size the same.

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