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Author Topic: Roy mauled by Tiger Mike Heenan Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1896 From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 10-06-2003 07:47 PM                     True, but it's interesting to see in the other stories, the "before" tapping, or hitting, hasn't been reported. I wonder if this really happened or not.  |  IP: Logged Martin Brooks Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 900 From: Forest Hills, NY, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 10-06-2003 10:22 PM                        While we're on the topic of endangered species, it was reported last week that Orangoutangs will be extinct in the wild within the next 10 to 15 years. I think it's incredible that the Siegfried & Roy show employed 250 people. That probably means a salary roll of well over $7.5 million. Although I also read that the show was incredibly profitable for the Mirage. Personally, I'm more inclined to support zoos than shows such as this. I think in the case of zoos, especially those that attempt to display animals in natural habitats, the trade-off of keeping some animals in confinement is worth the interest it generates in protecting animals in the wild. I feel less good about animal "shows", which are completely artificial in nature. As well as the animals might be treated and fed, it is a completely artificial environment, even if the animals are not tortured to perform.  |  IP: Logged Sam Hunter Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 779 From: West Monroe, LA, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 10-06-2003 10:45 PM                     I want to see the video of the event.  |  IP: Logged Pravin Ratnam Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 844 From: Atlanta, GA,USA Registered: Sep 2002 posted 10-06-2003 10:53 PM                     I wonder if this is just a ruse to give Roy an excuse to get more plastic surgery. Sometimes I wonder if Michael Jackson faked that hair burning thing to get straight hair implants. Just kidding. Seriously, I feel bad for the guy. While it was fun making jokes about em, they havent done anything to deserve this. Hope he recovers.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 10-06-2003 10:58 PM                  Ummm Martin, not to burst your bubble or anything...but Zoos are an "artificial" environment as well. Duh! >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Paul Linfesty Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1383 From: Bakersfield, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 posted 10-07-2003 09:53 AM                     quote: Although I also read that the show was incredibly profitable for the Mirage. Here's just how profitable. From the Los Angeles Times. (registration required to view this site). Closure of Siegfried & Roy Show to Hurt MGM Mirage's Profit From Bloomberg News October 7, 2003 MGM Mirage's annual profit may be cut as much as 10 cents a share because the company closed its Siegfried & Roy show after magician Roy Horn was attacked by a tiger Friday, Deutsche Bank analyst Marc Falcone said. But the company's stock held up relatively well Monday: It eased 35 cents, or 1%, to $36.48 on the New York Stock Exchange. Horn, 59, was bitten in the neck by a 600-pound white tiger during a performance at the Mirage hotel and casino in Las Vegas. Horn remains in critical condition, said Cheryl Persinger, a spokeswoman for University Medical Center in Las Vegas. The show, featuring illusions with tigers and other animals, has been canceled indefinitely, MGM spokesman Alan Feldman said. Siegfried & Roy's six weekly shows always sold out at the Mirage's 1,504-seat theater, Feldman has said. Analysts estimated that MGM Mirage got less than half the revenue from the sale of the $110.50 show tickets. But the Mirage will lose restaurant, casino and retail revenue from guests who would have seen the show, Falcone said. "It's been an outstanding and very successful show," Falcone said. He estimated that the loss of the show would cut the company's annual profit by 5 cents to 10 cents a share. MGM Mirage had been forecast to post a profit of $1.49 a share in 2003 and $1.77 in 2004, based on the consensus estimates of analysts in a Thomson First Call survey. The company gets two-thirds of its profit from its Las Vegas casinos, including the Mirage, Bellagio and MGM Grand.  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 10-07-2003 05:33 PM                        They just can`t afford to close the show down! Here`s your chance to get into show business - "Siegfried and Paul"!!!!  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-08-2003 01:44 AM                     I've been out here in Vegas the last few days and according to the local news Roy suffered tremendous blood loss form the accident.... enough too incur serious brain damage. They also said tonight that there is evedence he suffered a stroke as well. Mark @ CLACO  |  IP: Logged William Hooper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1879 From: Mobile, AL USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-08-2003 01:57 AM                        Huh. When I was your age, they didn't even HAVE orangoutangs. You'd go to most zoos, & they'd have a cage with an open door in the back cinder block wall, no orangoutang. The tour guides would say, "Oh, he must be asleep!" or "I guess he just doesn't want to come out today, but he was out playing all day yesterday!" in that irritating story-lady talking to kindergarteners voice. If you went to a zoo in the big city, they would have chimpanzees with their hair bleached out so that it was orange, put in these scaled-down habitats with tiny bushes, rocks, etc., and they kept the visitors farther back to mess with the scale by putting a stretch of land, a ditch, & a fence between. Sometimes they'd have a morbidly obese chimpanzee, & that would get closer to the correct proportions, but you could still tell. Especially when some guy would smuggle in a banana & throw it over into the habitat; the monkey would pick it up and the banana would be bigger than the monkey's head. Everybody knew it was a scam.  |  IP: Logged Dave Macaulay Film God Posts: 2321 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Apr 2001 posted 10-08-2003 08:54 PM                     White tigers are not a species. They're the result of a recessive gene in normal tigers. White tigers are effectively unknown in nature; because of their colour - and lack of camouflage - they can't hunt effectively and the occasional wild born individual would almost certainly die before maturity. I have nothing against stage shows using animals, and S&R put on a good show. Their "we're saving this endangered species" shtick is just part of the show. Don't take it seriously. They breed and maintain the animals because they need them for their show, period.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 10-08-2003 09:11 PM                  Sorry, but I don't believe that crap for a 1/2 a second. I've worked with them B4 on some show planning issues and implementations in Vegas and have seen their professional shows, facilities, and their philanthropic work towards ALL animals. True they need the animals for their show, and make/made mega-bucks, but their sincerely and honor for the welfare of all animals is beyond reproach. Anyone who thinks different needs to do their research and become enlightened and/or should have work with them. >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Dave Macaulay Film God Posts: 2321 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Apr 2001 posted 10-10-2003 08:50 AM                     Fair argument. Roy's interest in animals is well known, and he only entered the magic business after joining Sigfried after meeting him on a cruise featuring Sigfried's show. I don't doubt that the general philanthropy towards animal welfare from S&R has done a great deal of good. The white tigers are another thing completely. These are a show prop, and regardless of how much Roy loves them they're still just a show prop. Inbreeding freak mutant tigers does NOTHING to help the continued survival of the endangered species, either the Bengal tiger (the S&R white tigers) or the Siberian tiger.  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 10-14-2003 01:09 AM                        Well, now it's official. As of last Friday, one week after Roy was injured, the entire S&R crew has been terminated. Although MGM-Mirage says they will attempt to place these people, the reality is there isn't much out there to jump to right now. Steve Wynn has invited them all to apply at his new place (he is the one that originally hired them for the Mirage) but the new place won't open until mid-2004. Cirque de Soleil is advertising for crew for its new show at the MGM--maybe many of these people will end up over there (same employer). But that show isn't scheduled to start drag-in until February 2004. So it may be a cold winter for these folks--a rather unfortunate and abrupt ending to a wonderful 13-year run. Roy is responsive, but remains in critical but stable condition.  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 03-31-2004 11:25 AM                        Well as I type this, the Siegfried and Roy marquee is coming down after a 14 year run as a 'Vegas landmark in front of the Mirage. Can't see what's going to take its place yet--probably new artwork for Danny Gans, the Mirage's other headliner.  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 04-01-2004 11:03 AM                       quote: Ticket Price $100. My GHAWD! There's NO show I'd pay $100 to see -- not even if I could take a showgirl home with me afterwards (okay... maybe then)!  |  IP: Logged

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