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Author Topic: The Never-ending Battle: Mac vs. PC Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 10-16-2003 07:34 PM                        Speaking of the iApps, Windows users now have iTunes available to them. This is good because iTunes easily imports CD tracks to WAV or AIFF or MP3 or AAC files. Windows Media Player was a bitch to deal with and only converted to WMA. Winamp was a bitch to export to WAV or AIFF as well, as you had to use a plug-in. iTunes also allows you to "legally" download crap for 99 cents a song or $10 an album (I think) in the much-ballyhooed AAC format (which is compressed, therefore it sucks when it all boils down to it). At least you can preview every song they offer befo' you buy. I personally have never bought anything from the Apple Music Store. Click here, foo!  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 10-16-2003 09:31 PM                     quote: I've read posts in this thread calling the Mac vs. PC argument "pointless" and "irrelevant," but I really don't think it is. But the argument is irrelevant. Apple has very few "killer apps" exclusive to that platform. Final Cut Pro and DVD Studio Pro are pretty much it. Those are not mass market applications either. They appeal only to people who edit digital video on a professional or semi-professional basis, and are willing to pony up $2000 for those two apps. How many big video games are exclusive to the Mac platform? Here's the thing Apple doesn't seem to realize about 95% of computers users: it doesn't matter how fast a user can complete a certain task; it only matters whether the user can complete that task at all with that machine. There's lots of people continuing to use PCs that are 5 or more years old. Those antiques won't win any speed contests, but for those users they get the job done. Apple's unwillingness to realize this truth is very apparent in their hollow "twice as fast" marketing for the G5 and every PowerPC CPU previous to it. Apple needs to come up with things you just cannot do at all on a PC. Back in the late 1980's and early 1990's a lot of Mac hardware was sold only because applications like Adobe Photoshop, Aldus PageMaker, QuarkXpress, Illustrator, Freehand, LivePicture and others were exclusive to the Mac platform. Apple didn't invent any of those apps, but if you wanted to use them back then you had to use a Mac. It has now been 8 years or more since that situation existed. I don't want Apple to die out. They have made a lot of positive contributions to personal computing. But Apple has to do a far better job in trying to make PC users buy Macs. The "switch" campaign and veiled insults to Windows users is not going to gain the company any market share (yes, the G5 campaign "our processor is twice as fast" does indeed come off as "your PC sucks ass"). If I'm visiting any kind of store and the proprietor insults me I'm not giving him any of my business. It doesn't matter how right he thinks he is. For a PC user to switch to a Mac, he has to look at buying all of his software all over again. What is Apple doing to alleviate that problem? There are very few applications that ship both Mac and PC software in the same box. Now with companies adopting software activation systems in an attempt to thwart piracy, it won't matter whether your box has dual platform discs or not. You can't "switch" when you want to do so, and the software vendors will make you pay all kinds of upgrade fees to do so if you are absolutely bent on it. Most Windows users are not that compelled to do so.  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 10-18-2003 08:51 PM                        Funny, I got an email saying that iTunes was now available for Windows and that I should please check it out. I went to the Apple site but didn`t get very far. Most of the links were broken. Now please don`t tell me that is because I am viewing the site from a Windows machine. It looks like not everything is perfect in the Mac world.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 10-18-2003 09:59 PM                        Click on the link above in my post, Michael. It takes you right to it.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 10-18-2003 11:28 PM                     I wrote: quote: I don't recall reading about the many cool "iApps" bundled *free* as well. ...and then Shane wrote: quote: Manny: If you get a new mac, the iApps are included. What part of "bundled free" wasn't clear? ...and I forgot to include my poor little Powerbook 1400 in my show-off list. EDIT -- And **now** I have to add a phuggin' Presario 2100 laptop to the collection. This edit is the first F-T post from my new Windows laptop.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 10-19-2003 12:01 AM                        Compaq.... NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  |  IP: Logged Ron Lacheur Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 650 From: British Columbia, Canada Registered: Feb 2002 posted 10-19-2003 12:51 AM                     I second that Daryl. As well as Packard Hell.  |  IP: Logged

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