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Michael Schaffer
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I don`t understand either why some people here don`t like DTS. I have worked extensively with all three systems, and I like all of them. It is no secret here that I used to be an SDDS fan, but that doesn`t matter anymore as the system is riding into its sunset. I like Dolby and DTS equally well, both formats have their pluses and minuses, but if installed and maintained properly, neither of them will give you more trouble than the other.
And, if there were no technical problems at all, where would be the fun in working with them?

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Phil Hill
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quote:
DTS is the leading digital sound provider in INDIA for films...
Are there a lot of "foreign" films shown in India? Perhaps contributing to the popularity of DTS there may be the language issue. A great plus for the DTS system is the ability to easily "convert" a film to any language all from the same print.

BTW: The same applies for HA "captions" such as the "Rear Window" system.

I totally agree with Michael concerning the technology and the people at DTS. I have worked with many of them over the years and find (most) of them to be extremely knowledgeable, friendly, and willing to help.

My experience with them goes back more than 10 years to the days working with the original principals and inventor before it was called DTS….Back then, the startup was called Nu Optics. For the most part, I sincerely think that same inspiration, perspiration, and integrity still exists today.

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Joe Redifer
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quote:
Michael Shaffer wrote:
I like Dolby and DTS equally well, both formats have their pluses and minuses, but if installed and maintained properly, neither of them will give you more trouble than the other.

Tell that to the piles and piles of useless CD-ROM drives currently making a dent in landfills. DTS utilizes moving parts. Moving parts wear out.

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Richard Fowler
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CD rom issues....big deal. Non moving parts like LED, power supply and circuit card problems all have their problems during their service life...nothing is perfect and maintaining something as neccessary for creating income should be part of the business plan [Razz] Get rid of those mechanical projectors....too many moving parts [Wink]

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Joe Redifer
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You are missing the point big time, Richard. When it comes to a digital format, which one is most likely to break down due to wear and tear? CD-ROM drives are a big deal. That's one more thing to break down. And they have broken down a lot. Many shows did not play in digital because only one drive (or none) worked on a unit and no other digital sound format was available as back up. And let's not forget all of those old DTS discs also filling up landfills. Is DTS actively attempting any kind of recycling program with these? Is it even possible?

DTS is a good system, but I don't think it is "fantabulous" or anything.

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Richard Fowler
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Joe, in the more than 300+ units I have sold we had issues with 10% regarding drives over their service life or a need to upgrade....other issues such as cards and power supplies have been more of an issue; same with Dolby and SDDS. The only 100% strike out I have had where SDDS systems....of which I only sold 5 systems and all eventually where pulled. Every product has a weak point or unique issue.
DTS disks ( what maybe 2 million in circulation ) is a drop compared to CD / DVD / CVD product.....A 747 airplane while in the air is discharging 15 semi-tractor truck level of pollution into the atmosphere [Razz]

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Joe Redifer
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What is CVD?

Anyway I agree that DTS CD's are a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of music CD's and DVDs sold. But people generally tend to keep those products, whereas DTS CDs have a very finite useful life. Thanks to your statements, I see no reason why I should not litter. After all, if a 747 airplane while in the air is discharging 15 semi-tractor truck level of pollution into the atmosphere, my litter would be just a drop in the bucket. [Smile]

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Richard Fowler
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CVD are video disks popular in Asia which have VHS quality and can be handled by the same hardware that produces CD's. As for 747's we should of had Mach 2 - 3 transports with less pollution by now...as for litter I am one of thoses guys who empties trash from my pockets at the end of the day if I can't find a place to safely dispose of the refuse.....less CD Roms with the new DTS XD-10 + interlocking capability....but we are back to that "moving part" ( hard drive ) issue [Roll Eyes]

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Joe Redifer
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Oh you mean VCD's (and S-VCD's). I agree about the super-sonic transportation statement.

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Manny Knowles
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...and don't forget all of those trailer subscription discs: A new edition issued every week!

...and don't forget the issue of needing to have discs in the first place.

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Richard Fowler
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Maybe DTS has a hex on the Bahamas [Wink] There are probably more plastic loops from six pack beer packages fouling the waters compared to DTS disks in the ocean...more beer than DTS consumers [beer]

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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Well then that's that. DTS and people who drink beer from cans are evil.

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Richard Fowler
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YES....don't recycle those disks....they will end up on beer cans and the reefs will be polluted......Long day [Big Grin]

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Phil Hill
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ANYONE who drinks beer from a can, is a loser!

>>> Phil

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Richard Fowler
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Agreed [beer] how can you play "spin the can"

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