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Author Topic: Anti-Counterfeit code in Photoshop Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 01-15-2004 04:46 PM                        They do tell you. From the first page of the Adbobe Photoshop CD EULA: http://www.adobe.com/products/eulas/pdfs/cs_combined.pdf quote: THE SOFTWARE MAY INCLUDE PRODUCT ACTIVATION AND OTHER TECHNOLOGY DESIGNED TO PREVENT UNAUTHORIZED COPYING. THE ACTIVATION TECHNOLOGY MAY PREVENT YOUR USE OF THE SOFTWARE IF YOU DO NOT FOLLOW THE ACTIVATION PROCESS DESCRIBED IN THE SOFTWARE AND DOCUMENTATION. Visit http://www.adobe.com for information about product activation. http://www.adobe.com/activation/main.html  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 01-15-2004 05:12 PM                  God! Daryl! You are such a geek! Who the hell has the patience to read a 144 page document of the "rules"? I paid big-time $$$ originally and to upgrade, that should be all that is required! I don't like the premise of "WE NEED TO UPGRADE YOUR FILES" by calling the home office. Fuck Them! Let ***ME*** decide when to call! I want to turn that off! >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 01-15-2004 05:19 PM                        Actually, the English text is only 8 pages. So you don't need to read 144 pages unless you're really bored. If people weren't so damn cheap activation wouldn't normally be necessary. There are two sides to Moore's law... (i) processing speed will double every 18 months, and (ii) so will software piracy.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 01-15-2004 05:31 PM                  Perhaps there is a 3rd side: Let's fuck with the legit customer and make them jump thru our hoops! >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-15-2004 09:27 PM                     They need to tell the user WHEN the connection is being made, not simply say, "We may do this sometime..." Like I said before, "It's as simple as putting up a message, "Authenticating your software..." People tend to use technology because they CAN and not because they SHOULD or even if it makes SENSE.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-15-2004 10:20 PM                        Just delete everything on your drive that has to do with Photoshop 7 and reinstall, this time electing NOT to register online and when the dialog box pops up asking you to register the first time you launch it after that, click the box that says "NEVER SHOW ME THIS AGAIN!" I swear I have never had an Adobe product, Mac or PC, try to phone home.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 01-15-2004 11:39 PM                     Is there a chance the software "Search and Destroy" (or whatever it is called) would delete the monkey that calls home?  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 01-16-2004 09:01 AM                       I had the beta of Photoshop 7. The only new feature that I liked was the modified cloning tool, but Commotion had a better version of that for my purposes, so I switched back to 6 right away. Plus, why do they always have to jack with the tool functions and layout on every upgrade?!  |  IP: Logged Greg Mueller Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1687 From: Port Gamble, WA Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-16-2004 09:50 AM                        My graphics computer does not have a modem. Photoshop can't "phone home"  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 01-16-2004 11:54 PM                     If you run a computer "stand alone" (not connected to the Internet or networked with anything), you will have to phone Adobe in the old fashioned "analog" method if you ever upgrade to PhotoshopCS. I guess you have to do something manually to get it to "activate." My understanding is PhotoshopCS will write something to the boot sector of your hard disc and that will remain present regardless of uninstall/reinstall procedures; it takes formatting the hard disc to get rid of it. Overall, Adobe has been clear in its up-front warnings about the activation feature in PhotoshopCS. Also of note, the activation feature is only present in the Windows version of PhotoshopCS. The Mac version does not have it. That's because the vast majority of Photoshop piracy is Windows-based. FYI, all the other apps in the Adobe Creative Suite do not have the activation feature.  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 01-17-2004 10:24 AM                        I'm NAT'd and behind 2 s/w firewalls. Having said that, the one time I tried Zone Alarm, I couldn't get any work done because it was constantly in my face. I do run AdAware, SpyBot Search and Destroy, and WindowWasher regularly. Beyond that, I don't give a shit. Ignorance is bliss.  |  IP: Logged Thomas Procyk Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1842 From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 01-17-2004 11:27 AM                     quote: which is one reason why a growing number of applications must be "activated" within 2 weeks or 30 days of install. The software goes dead otherwise. When I come across a program like this, I wait until the last possible day to do it. One example was Microsoft PowerPoint which I needed to read almost every professor's notes. You could only use it 30 times without activating it. Two semesters later, I finally got down to the last usage, almost 8 or 9 months later. Now this may not be a good idea, BUT, what if when it asks you for your registration number, you give it something other than your own? That way when it "phones home" it will see it is Jack Black in Arkansas who is using the product. If anything "bad" should come of it, you have your legitimate serial number as proof that you own the product. Unless they get you for fraud or something... quote: My graphics computer does not have a modem. Photoshop can't "phone home" Greg has a very good point. (did I just say that? ) If you do a lot of graphics work or other projects that are vital to you, you should do it on a computer that's not connected to the internet. These days, there's too many ways for people or software to check on what you're doing. That's why I hate TiVo and the "thank God its dead" DivX format. More convenient ways for companies to track what you watch, when, how often, and from what source so they can better "Tailor marketing strategies to the consumer's individual desires." =TMP=  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 01-17-2004 07:36 PM                        Why not just use the Microsoft PowerPoint Viewer?  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-17-2004 07:50 PM                        Why would anyone want to view anything created in PowerPoint in the first place? I suggest that the professor who loves PowerPoint should get a gallon of sugar in his gas tank.... and in the gas tanks of all his family, friends, and anyone else who happens to park in the same lot!  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 01-18-2004 02:18 PM                     I hate PowerPoint because I get all kinds of damned "customer art files" delivered in it. Blah! The US Army is real bad about using PowerPoint for everything. Our sign company has to reproduce unit crests all the time. You can pretty much count on the soldier bringing in a disc with a .PPT file on it. Inside the PPT file is just some dopey bitmap (like a TIFF, BMP, JPEG or GIF) that is totally useless. And it is usually so low and crude in resolution that there is no way to auto-trace into vector format using Adobe Streamline or Photoshop. I just get to spend an hour or two manually rebuilding the damned graphic into vector form. You would think with the military's budget the Army could afford at least a few copies of Adobe Illustrator! But that's okay. We just nail them with the $50 per hour digitizing fee. Little piece of advice for anyone designing logos: do it in a vector drawing program like Illustrator, Freehand or CorelDRAW. It is totally stupid to do it in Photoshop or any other raster editing app.  |  IP: Logged

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