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Tim Reed
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 - posted 01-17-2004 11:20 PM      Profile for Tim Reed   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, since they're closing, I'll put in for an animation disc... wait! Disney uses their own punch pattern and the cels are larger too, aren't they? In that case, I'll take an animation desk without the disc. Anybody have a contact for equipment sales? Art, are you still out there?

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Paul Mayer
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 - posted 01-18-2004 12:15 AM      Profile for Paul Mayer   Author's Homepage   Email Paul Mayer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Looks like those desks, discs and peg bars may end up with the same animators at their new venture, Legacy Animation Studios.

Disney Animators Form Legacy Animation In Florida

January 09, 2004

A group of former Walt Disney Feature Animation Florida animators have banded together to open Legacy Animation Studios, a new animation production studio in Winter Garden, Florida, close to Orlando in late January 2004. The studio will offer a full-range of traditional hand-drawn (or 2D) animation services for film, television and commercials. Legacy will also be dedicated to developing original properties for television and film as well as produce its own feature film project.

"We believe that traditionally animated films are still a viable form of entertainment," says Legacy Animation Studios directing manager, Eddie Pittman. "Our goal is to create quality animated films with compelling stories and strong characters and to continue Walt Disney's legacy of hand-drawn animation."

The combined experience of the Legacy team amounts to more than 25 animated films, including THE LITTLE MERMAID, BEAUTY AND THE BEAST, ALADDIN, MULAN and LILO AND STITCH.

Pittman has worked on such animated features as MULAN, TARZAN, and LILO & STITCH. He has taught for the renowned Computer Animation program at Ringling School of Art and Design, and his popular drawing classes taught around Central Florida the Disney Florida studio recommended to aspiring animators. Recently, he produced and directed LEGENDS OF THE NIGHT SKY: ORION, the world's first full dome (360°) traditionally animated movie.

Veteran assistant animator David Nethery is on board as creative director for Legacy. Nethery has nearly 20 years of experience as an animation artist. His credits include such characters as 'Meeko' the raccoon from POCAHONTAS, 'Mushu' from MULAN 'Cobra Bubbles' from LILO AND STITCH, and most recently 'Tug' and 'Koda's Mom' from BROTHER BEAR.

Legacy has three projects in development, including a short film that will begin production in late January 2004. For more information contact Pittman at (407) 538-8938 or via e-mail at eddie@legacyanimation.net.

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Tim Reed
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Thanks, Paul! That sure was quick, didn't take them long to form a new deal. The question I have is, where do people get the money to start things like this? I mean, the closing was just announced, and already they're starting a project!?

Here's their website!

Legacy Animation Studios

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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 - posted 01-18-2004 09:29 PM      Profile for Daryl C. W. O'Shea   Author's Homepage   Email Daryl C. W. O'Shea   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It may have been just publicly announced but they've obviously known about it for some time. The domain was registered on October 7.

Kind of like some people from another industry related company did last year.

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Bobby Henderson
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 - posted 01-29-2004 10:50 PM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I said this a few days ago:

quote:
Analog animation is central to the core of the Disney image. If they kill that they effectively kill the company --especially if Pixar ever scores a better distribution deal with a rival movie studio or distributes movies themselves.
Apparently, I took some "smart pills" that day or something. Check out this interesting story from CNN/Money:

Pixar Dumps Disney
Studio headed by Steve Jobs says it will seek other distributors for its films starting in 2006.
January 29, 2004: 7:20 PM EST

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Pixar Animation Studios Inc. said Thursday it ended talks with Walt Disney Co. to extend a five-picture deal for Disney to distribute Pixar films.

Pixar, the computer animation pioneer founded by Apple Computer Inc.'s Steve Jobs, said it would begin talks with other companies to distribute its films starting in 2006.

"After ten months of trying to strike a deal with Disney, we're moving on," Pixar CEO Steve Jobs said in a statement. "We've had a great run together -- one of the most successful in Hollywood history -- and it's a shame that Disney won't be participating in Pixar's future successes."

The move was a clear setback to Disney, which reaped a financial and critical bonanza from the partnership and has struggled with its own strategy for animation.

Disney said Pixar's final offer would have cost Disney hundreds of millions of dollars from the existing distribution deal and was not sweet enough going forward.

"Although we would have enjoyed continuing our successful collaboration under mutually acceptable terms, Pixar understandably has chosen to go its own way to grow as an independent company," Disney Chairman Michael Eisner said in a statement.

Pixar (PIXR: Research, Estimates) stock rose initially in after-hours trading but later fell back, while Disney (DIS: Research, Estimates) stock tumbled about 6 percent.

Other studios are already expressing interest in forging a relationship with Pixar. A Warner Bros. spokesperson told CNN, "We would love to be in business with Pixar. They are a great company." Warner Bros. has not yet engaged in formal talks with the animator.

Pixar said its five films so far -- including "Toy Story", "Monsters Inc." and "Finding Nemo" -- have taken in $2.5 billion at the worldwide box office and sold more than 150 million DVDs and videos. "Finding Nemo" was highest grossing animated film of all time.

Pixar had complained that the terms of the distribution deal were tilted too heavily in Disney's favor. Under the deal, Pixar was responsible for content, while Disney handled distribution and marketing.

In exchange, Pixar has split profits with Disney and pays the studio a distribution fee of between 10 percent to 15 percent of revenue. Based on its blockbuster success, Pixar has argued that it should keep the profit itself and cut the fees its studio partner charges.

Many observers had expected Pixar and Disney to keep talking at least until the middle of this year and to eventually reach a deal since both had gained so much from their partnership.

"It makes it look like Eisner did something wrong again, but we shouldn't jump to conclusions. This could be a negotiating tactic by Pixar as well," said Patrick McKeigue, an analyst at Independence Investment, which holds Disney shares.
Roy Disney and ally Stanley Gold, who both resigned from the Disney board late last year and called for Chief Executive and Chairman Michael Eisner to step down, placed the blame on Eisner.

"More than a year ago, we warned the Disney board that we believed Michael Eisner was mismanaging the Pixar partnership and expressed our concern that the relationship was in jeopardy," they said.

Disney noted in its statement that it owns rights to all the Pixar movies, as well as two more animated features yet to be delivered -- "The Incredibles" due this year and "Cars", expected in 2005.

Disney will distribute those two films with Pixar getting its share of the profits. Disney also has the right to finance and produce sequels if Pixar declines to co-finance and produce them under the current agreement.

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Tim Reed
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I laughed out loud when I heard this the other day! Poetic justice. Disney shouldn't have been so hot to shut it's Florida studio. Now, they've lost their animators AND their meal ticket.

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Thomas Procyk
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GOOD! It's always a pleasure to watch someone "cocky" get kicked in the balls! [thumbsup]

What would REALLY be the icing on the cake is if Pixar struck a deal with Legacy Animation Studios! [eyes]

=TMP=

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Mike Blakesley
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 - posted 01-30-2004 11:51 AM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I wonder when Pixar will release its first "flop." Gotta happen at some point. Then the shoe'll be on the other foot.

I still think the Disney marketing machine will be sorely missed.

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Phil Hill
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 - posted 01-30-2004 03:34 PM      Profile for Phil Hill   Email Phil Hill       Edit/Delete Post 
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GOOD! It's always a pleasure to watch someone "cocky" get kicked in the balls!
Sounds more like two big corps with CEOs with too big heads and too much ego.

Jobs has ALWAYS been a "cocky" asshole. Starting from the Atari 800/Apple II days when I knew him. Back then, we were both nothing... now he's something, and I'm still nothing... go figure! [Big Grin]

>>> Phil

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John Pytlak
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I still have my working Atari 800, and lots of the games to go with it. Go PAC MAN and FROGGER.

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Tim Reed
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 - posted 01-30-2004 04:10 PM      Profile for Tim Reed   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Phil, you will always be something here...
[Razz]

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Phil Hill
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Cool John! Great machine! (I was on the Atari side of the Atari/Apple "war".)

I was into the Scott Adams Adventures and role-playing games like Temple Of Doom as well as the "arcade" games.

All of these old 800 games are on the inet along with the 800 emulators to play them on a PC. Lots O' Fun!

I sometimes regret putting my all my Atari stuff in the dumpster about 5 years ago. It was one of those moments while sifting thru stuff to take/toss while moving to a new residence. I thought... "Why am I hanging on to this stuff"... HA! What a jerk!

I was into Those machines big time back then. I even bought a 400 cuz they had that hot GTIA graphics chip so I could swap out the CTIA in my 800 for even better game graphics.

I dumped my 800 and XL. Had the full 48k and the upgrades to 128k RAM CARD, and whatever else bells & whistles were avaible back then.

I had 2ea 810 disc drives w/Hill mods for servo-controlled motor speed and digital speed readout.

The cassette tape recorder, the port extender, joysticks, analog controllers, all the books, language and game cartridges, over 300 5-1/4 floppies with all the games, etc.

I even had a Hayes 1200 modem.

ALL went into the trash... [Roll Eyes]

Oh well, I still wouldn't have room for it all, but it was fun for the years of 1979 to about 1987 when I got my 1st IBM DOS machine.

>>> Phil

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Webster Colcord
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Sure Jobs is cocky, but Pixar/ Lassetter need someone like that to butt heads with the Hollywood assholes, otherwise they would get eaten alive by the likes of Katzenberg and Eisner. And going public was such a smart thing for them to do, it gives them the capital that they need to "float" for awhile if they have a flop (highly unlikely).

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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I think Jobs should be cocky! They should also form their own distribution company and screw all the others out there. They certainly dont need anyones help!

At one of my service stops the projectionist there is a retired animator who worked for Disney Animation fomr 1948 to 1955. He mentioned that as stupid as Eisner is, Roy Disney is just as stupid if not more so. He said they really just need to clean house and start over.

Interestingly this guy also animated the opening title sequence for "The Great Race" and put the sparkle in Tony Curtis's teeth all in 65mm!! This guys getting up there in age but is absolutely ascinating to talk with.

Tim, You comming through SLC anytime soon?

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Phil Hill
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Webster said:

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...to butt heads with the Hollywood assholes...
Gosh, you sure are well informed...I can tell....

Just FYI... Steve-O has done his share of "eating"...

Ummm...not that I have any interest, care, or sympathy for ANY of those "players!"

>>> Phil

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