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Topic: The Simpsons are headed to the big screen...
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Dave Williams
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Posts: 1836
From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 02-15-2004 02:21 PM
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The Simpsons sucked in 1990, they'll suck in 2006 as well. Any movie by their creator or production staff will be lame-ass at best. The tradition of South Park and Beavis & Butthead lives on . . . unfortunately.
Oh yeah, BTW, everything that has ever premiered on Fox or has yet to come on Fox sucks.
First of all, when the Simpsons first gained its popular notariety, they were decried as the key reason for the downfall of western civilization. Now they have won a peabody award for excellence in broadcasting. Somehow, it sucking doesn't seem to transcribe from your interpretation.
As for your opinion of everything on Fox sucking, let us know when you get your own network and let us know how you do.
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I'm not going to sit here and belittle each episode of each show to prove some miniscule point. The fact is each on of these appealed to its own seperate audience, but in the end the same audience. Basically this means teens coming of age in the 1990's who accepted bathroom humor, low-caliber annimation, and lame situational plots. I sorry if this offends anyone - its not meant to. I just don't like adult cartoons. I don't even care much for most of the programs on network television in general.
It's real easy to just make a substandard argument as to why it sucks, and never point out why, just that it does. The mere fact that you don't like adult cartoons decries that no one should ever take what you say on the subject seriously, as you are prebiased to hate it.
For instance, if I were to render a decision on japanese animation, which I cannot stand, and expect anyone to take me seriously, well of course I would be self deluded.
I am not saying that you have to be a fan to be taken seriously, but to be an anti-fan, is just as biased.
I will admit that the simpsons have gotten a bit stale over the last few years, but it is groundbreaking in that it is one of the longest running prime time non news or informational shows in history. It is an iconic part of our society and history now, such as I love lucy or MASH. Those shows got stale after a while too. Yet they live on in our memories and history, as will the Simpsons twenty years after it leaves the prime time airwaves.
Will a Simpsons movie make it big? Yes it will. It will probably gross half a billion dollars worldwide. Why? Because it is an icon in entertainment around the world, and because it is still on the air. South Park the movie failed because the phenomenon was fairly new and while huge, did not have the adult fan base needed to support a rated R movie worldwide. The simpsons will be a different story, as the purpose of the show is not to push the envelope of what you can do on screen, but rather to attempt to humorize the daily life of a standard mid ranged american family. it will appeal to the family set as well as the adult set as well. It has a fan base that is worldwide and will go to see it for that reason alone that it exists.
The future of more movies hinges solely on how well the first one is recieved. The performance of the TV show at this point will have no bearing on how the movie will perform.
So ciao to all, have a great Daytona 500, and long live homer.
Dave
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Manny Knowles
"What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???"
Posts: 4247
From: Bloomington, IN, USA
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 02-16-2004 06:37 PM
Adam, you ignorant slut!
I take care of my nieces and nephews quite a bit and I try to explain to them why it's bad to do [whatever] and that works well for kids that are old enough to understand what's being said to them (around age 4+).
If they insist on doing stupid stuff then, yeah, taking freedom away from them can work. The technique is sound and will work if applied correctly and consistently.
I'll admit that spanking works with very young kids who can't understand "words." I had to spank my nephew once or twice to curb his inquisitiveness regarding an electrical outlet or from playing too close to the stove. I figured a little pain from me was better than severe pain in those instances. He wasn't speaking age yet, so there was no "reasoning" with him.
Parents who find it necessary to resort to "beatings" and "whuppings" have more than likely failed to establish a sense of discipline earlier...or else they're just taking what seems like a shortcut.
When a big kid beats up a little kid, don't we call that bullying? It's no different when parents do it to their kid(s). That kind of nonsense creates a sense that the parent is an enemy, which is entirely the wrong message to send.
I've heard parents say stupid things like: "My dad kicked the shit out of me twice a week and I turned out all right." These people turn into parents who discipline with violence. It's nothing less than a frat-house "hazing" mentality, if you ask me: They did it to me and I'll get my turn to do it to the next guy. It's sick and stupid. By the way, that same ignorant logic motivates (non-Jewish) parents to circumcize their baby boys.
Interesting contradiction: I am in favor of corporeal punishment in schools, but only to an extent.
On the one hand, teachers are working with large numbers of kids and, added to that, they have information that must be communicated effectively in a limited amount of time. At my high school we had a few troublesome kids -- who had not responded to less "extreme" forms of discipline -- and they were subjected to a public caning (at general assembly) and then suspended for something like 2 weeks. They returned with a new attitude...and the rest of us interpreted that event as a cautionary tale.
On the other hand, there was also a teacher (very recently, at another high school) whose reputation for beating preceeded her. One boy literally had a heart attack and DIED because he hadn't done his art homework and would therefore take a beating. It was a real tragedy because it was partially his mother's fault for not buying his art supplies. She was poor and thought that the art class was "costing too much." The boy warned his mother that his teacher was notorious for beating.
Kids shouldn't be afraid of their teachers (or parents) like that.
[ 02-16-2004, 08:32 PM: Message edited by: Manny Knowles ]
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