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Rachel Craven
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 - posted 03-08-2004 04:56 PM      Profile for Rachel Craven   Email Rachel Craven   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Everyone ever born should be on the list because everyone changed the world in one way or another... except Joe of course.

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Steve Kraus
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 - posted 03-08-2004 05:36 PM      Profile for Steve Kraus     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
TIME lost all credibility with me for their Person of the Year cover. It's supposed to be the person who had the greatest influence on world events yet they stubbornly refuse include "bad" people, having not had one since, I think, the Ayatollah Khomeini in 1980. Clearly in 2001 Osama bin Laden had a greater impact on world events than did Rudy Guiliani. It's not even arguable.

And I would have had Hitler for Person of the Century, not Einstein. Einstein's importance may still be growing but insofar as a single person (many worked on the A-bomb and nuclear power) Hitler shaped 20th century events more. Not just the war and the Holocaust but the division of Europe and the cold war can be blamed on him as well.

If they mean these things to be honoraries then they should say so and stop pretending.

As for the list at hand, I nominate Jennifer Pan because I am a total suck-up.

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Steve Guttag
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 - posted 03-08-2004 05:52 PM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Bob Dylan certainly belongs on the list...just a little research into the culture of the '60s which influenced all that came after. Joe, you have probably heard more Dylan songs/poems than you realize...many artists covered his songs much better than he did himself...his singing voice isn't so good.

In a muscial sense...Little Richard should have been on such a list as should James Brown. They not only were popular but changed the way music sounded and influenced those that came after.

For the Sports thing (or heros)...to not have Babe Ruth is a mistake.

For all time, if Gauss isn't on the list, the list is very flawed.

Steve

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Mike Olpin
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 - posted 03-09-2004 12:33 AM      Profile for Mike Olpin   Email Mike Olpin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Steve Jobs - Concived and realized the first mass produced computer designed for home-use. Also the person from whom Jenifer borrowed the oppening post of this thread (The Crazy Ones)

Steve Wozniac - Designed and built the afformentioned computer.

Ed Catmul -- The first to Pioneer 3D computer graphics with his short film "The Hand"

Alvey Ray Smith -- together with Ed, concieved of using a computer to create full length feature films.

John Lasseter -- Created some of the worlds first computer animated NARATIVES. (not just pretty graphics, but using the graphics to create characters and tell a story.) Also directed the first full-length feature animated film, Toy Story, for half of what it cost to create a traditional feature. Pushed the artform forward, even when PIXAR was financially unstable. The Walt Disney of today's generation.

Joe Redifer - 'Cause his website convinced me.

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William T. Parr
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 - posted 03-09-2004 01:10 AM      Profile for William T. Parr   Email William T. Parr   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
TMI = Too Much Information

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Paul Mayer
Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under!

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 - posted 03-09-2004 03:15 PM      Profile for Paul Mayer   Author's Homepage   Email Paul Mayer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That's right Joe, mine don't itch none. Unless my 'roids are acting up... [Razz]

Just to stay on some semblance of topic, I'll add:

Guglielmo Marconi
Nikola Tesla
Sir George Cayley
Leonardo da Vinci

to the list.

How fitting that this was post #757 for me--matches that of my favorite jet... [Smile]

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Leo Enticknap
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 - posted 03-09-2004 05:03 PM      Profile for Leo Enticknap   Author's Homepage   Email Leo Enticknap   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If we're having a section for aviators, then I'd add Count Zeppelin (first flight powered by internal combustion engine, over three years before Wright Bros.), Hugo Eckener (first powered flight round the world, and with fare-paying passengers to boot) and Frank Whittle (jet engine). As far as political leaders go I can't see the rationale behind including Gorbachev but not Lenin or Stalin, if the main criterion here is effecting change. After all, Gorbachev played a relatively minor role in clearing up the mess which Stalin almost single-handedly created. And if we're only allowed one film maker I'm not sure about Spielberg (I'd argue that the films of, say, John Ford or Walt Disney had a greater impact over a longer time scale, both as 'art' - whatever that's supposed to be - and entertainment), but I guess we could debate that until the cows come home.

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Phil Hill
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I agree with including Steve Wozniac and Nikola Tesla.

Time mag sucks the big green weenie! I changed to Newsweek years ago.

And how could *WE* not mention Dr. Larry Hornbeck?

>>> Phil

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