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Floyd Justin Newton
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 - posted 03-20-2004 07:44 AM      Profile for Floyd Justin Newton   Email Floyd Justin Newton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, this just (sexual intercourse) blows me away!

fjn [Cool]

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Steve Kraus
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 - posted 03-20-2004 09:19 AM      Profile for Steve Kraus     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Bobby, you're now talking about ideas and concepts rather than simply indecent language. Do you really want the gub'ment sticking their nose into that?

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Robert E. Allen
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 - posted 03-20-2004 01:09 PM      Profile for Robert E. Allen   Email Robert E. Allen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What the FCC has not banned is the right to learn to use the more than adequate English language to communicate. I find the "f" word neither mature nor offensive, just disgusting and, to me, proof of the fact that the user has never mastered the language he speaks.

Apparently the junior high acting Hollywood writers use the word constantly as they give it to characters in our films who never use the word in real life like highly educated doctors, lawyers, professors, scientists, judges, etc. and it makes them look really stupid (both the characters and the writers).

A lot is said these days about our rights, our right to do this, that or the other thing or to speak with, or listen to, a potty mouth. But it strikes me as odd that nothing is ever said about other people's rights not to be offended or exercising the right to just be a nice person and considerate of others.

Indeed, even in this thread, it seems to give some gratification to use the "f" word as often as possible without any consideration for others. IMO it doesn't speak well for one's level of maturity.

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Thomas Procyk
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 - posted 03-20-2004 01:14 PM      Profile for Thomas Procyk   Email Thomas Procyk   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So wait a minute... I don't understand what's going on.

How can they "Ban" the F-word? Don't they beep it out on everything but Premium Cable TV? That right there is "not airing" it. Does this mean they won't even be able to beep it out? That's lame... We must protect the american public from words. Because words can strike at any time without warning. Words hide in tunnels and holes... we must smoke these words out. IMHO, they should ban the word "potty" for everyone over age 5.

On the other hand, this could just be a ploy to show the public that something's being done that's already been done. Like the War on Terrorism... were we not fighting terrorism before? Guess not... Good thing the FCC is doing something about bad language on broadcast TV at least. Just like they helped EVERYONE by putting those rating things all over the place.

And it's not like Janet Jackson was the first tit to get on broadcast TV. Hell, she did it at what... 9pm Eastern? Here's a shot of TWO TITS that made it on the air during the Republican National Convention on NBC's Today show. Hell, even Katie Couric noticed and NO ONE SAID ANYTHING....

Click here for broadcast porn.
If it's taking a long time to load, try saving it first.
Watch the girl when they say, "...we have a nice crowd of people gathered RIGHT outside our studio..." [Smile]

I'd like to take the penis pill argument a step further. How about banning ads for feminine hygene products during dinner? The last thing I want to hear about while eating in front of the 'tube is how this chick stops her heavy flow days. [Roll Eyes] Or any commerical for baby products that shows a child's naked ass. Especially with the parent "caressing" the lotion into it. Then they wonder why we've got a population of pedophiles. If they can show a female toddler's bare ass on daytime TV, they should be able to show a female teenager's bare ass... [thumbsup]

But there's one major difference between programming and advertizing. Ads bring in money, programs don't. Programming is just something to keep people entertained between the network's money-making time. Once we figure out how to make the commercials equally as entertaining, we won't need programming at all. Yay, capitalism.

=TMP=

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Bobby Henderson
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 - posted 03-20-2004 02:45 PM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Bobby: You seem to be really obsessed with the dick-erecting commercials. Does thou protest/speak too loud?
Nope. But even if I did have erectile dysfunction, the fact I'm not getting laid very much these days makes the commercials all the more useless. There's no point to me being their customer either way. I'm tired of seeing commercials for the shit.

quote:
I see nothing wrong with those commercials.
And that's our difference of opinion. As I said before, I don't think impotence commercials are appropriate. Kids aren't stupid. They at least have some kind of foggy idea of what the commercials are talking about. Those commercials are on all hours of the day, not confined to late night or anything like that.

The main problem I have with it is the very obvious double standard. You can't have commercials on TV to sell condoms. But you can for dick hardening pills. You cannot say a certain word used as slang for sex, but you can sell products via commercials for it.

IMHO, the "moral right wing" allows the drug industry to slide for this obscene advertising because the pharmaceutical industry gives a shit load of lobbyist PAC donations (bribe money) to the Republican Party.

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Aaron Sisemore
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 - posted 03-20-2004 04:12 PM      Profile for Aaron Sisemore   Email Aaron Sisemore   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
You can't have commercials on TV to sell condoms.
I have seen 'Trojan Man' commercials on TV...

-Aaron

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Bobby Henderson
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 - posted 03-20-2004 06:01 PM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Where? I haven't seen any myself. Heard quite a lot of them on the radio, however. I guess Clearchannel doesn't have a problem with it.

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Paul Mayer
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 - posted 03-20-2004 09:34 PM      Profile for Paul Mayer   Author's Homepage   Email Paul Mayer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The "Trojan Man" spots play late night in the LA and Las Vegas markets too, though I haven't seen any lately. I imagine regional demographics matter when deciding what markets get those ads. What you can get away with on the coasts may not be a good idea in the bible belt.

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Phil Hill
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 - posted 03-21-2004 02:19 AM      Profile for Phil Hill   Email Phil Hill       Edit/Delete Post 
"Trojan Man" My hero!

Ummmmm... That is after Mr. Joe R.! [beer]

>>> Phil

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Carl Martin
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 - posted 03-21-2004 02:38 AM      Profile for Carl Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Carl Martin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
But it strikes me as odd that nothing is ever said about other people's rights not to be offended
i find that, well, offensive. really, offense is not something that is given; it is taken (yes, that's a simplistic argument based on an idiom). if i object to the words "peanut butter" does that preclude you from saying them? if you are polite, respectful, and well-attuned to my sensitivities, you might refrain from saying them in my presence, and i might appreciate that. but this is a matter for miss manners, not the f*ccing government.

many very intelligent people use "foul" language, including doctors, lawyers, and poets. sure, profanity can be used stupidly, but it can also be beautiful.

carl

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Phil Hill
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quote:
...many very intelligent people use "foul" language...

Fucking A, Carl!

Those that "protest" *bad* language need to just change the channel.

And to Mr. Robert Allen: Get off your righteous high horse. The title of this thread suggests what will be said here. Give US all a break and take your goodie-two-shoes speel elsewhere. [thumbsdown]

>>> Phil

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Robert E. Allen
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"And to Mr. Robert Allen: Get off your righteous high horse. The title of this thread suggests what will be said here. Give US all a break and take your goodie-two-shoes speel elsewhere."
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Wow, Phil! That's a really well thought-out, mature response.

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Mark Ogden
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 - posted 03-21-2004 04:52 PM      Profile for Mark Ogden   Email Mark Ogden   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What needs to happen to this thread:

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Greg Anderson
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 - posted 03-21-2004 06:21 PM      Profile for Greg Anderson   Author's Homepage   Email Greg Anderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Um... anyone who's been raised in the United States speaking English (along with many others who were raised outside the United States and/or not speaking English) knows that "the F word" is considered offensive by society. Even if you think it might be "beautiful" sometimes you can't ignore the obvious. So anyone who deliberately uses the word in a broadcast pretty-well knows what he's doing... so it makes that person look rather ridiculous if that person pretends to be surprised that other people take offense.

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Phil Hill
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 - posted 03-22-2004 06:16 AM      Profile for Phil Hill   Email Phil Hill       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Robert! [beer]

Greg: I agree!

And I might add, I find it hilarious that people complain about this thread knowing full well that it would contain the "F-word" based on the thread title. DUH!

>>> Phil

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