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Author Topic: I'm glad I'm not this pilot! Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 07-01-2004 11:03 PM                  I agree with Josh. Rach, I have always had great experiences on NW. Drunk pilots or not! >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 07-02-2004 12:37 AM                        Josh, the landing technique you describe is exactly what must be done during a crosswind landing, in your case a right crosswind apparently. Definitely fun on a gusty day!  |  IP: Logged William Hooper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1879 From: Mobile, AL USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-02-2004 01:06 AM                        quote: Clint Koch Rachel, It is still the safest mode of travel. That guy who mailed himself from NY to TX in a box arrived OK.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 07-05-2004 05:12 PM                        ...and most of the passengers on the Hindenburg got out alive, too. Have a good trip, Rachel!  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-05-2004 05:58 PM                     Ohhhhh, the humanity!  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-05-2004 06:40 PM                     Have a great trip chipper  |  IP: Logged Will Kutler Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1506 From: Tucson, AZ, USA Registered: Feb 2001 posted 07-05-2004 08:59 PM                     Rachel... FOr added protection...take some flying lessons from Red Skelton!  |  IP: Logged Rachel Craven Madam Moderator Posts: 2190 From: Pensacola, FL Registered: Dec 2000 posted 07-06-2004 08:46 AM                     Ok, I'm here in Boston and was that the worst flight ever! The cabin had to be at least 90 degrees when we got in (the plane was late) and at least 100 degrees by the time we landed. There was turbulence the whole trip (which I know is not the pilots fault) Not to mention when the pilot landed the plane we were going down almost hitting the runway at a very odd angle. I swear it felt like we landed on one wheel and stayed there for quite a while before the other hit the ground, it really felt like we were tipping. It was bad enough that there were people in the plane screaming... Not me of course!  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 07-06-2004 07:39 PM                        ...and you all walked away alive. What's the problem? Assuming they can still use that A/C, it was actually a great landing. quote: Article A Northwest Airlines flight that was headed to Rapid City, South Dakota, landed a few miles off course at Ellsworth Air Force Base, and passengers had to wait in the plane for more than three hours while their crew was interrogated. Passengers on Northwest Flight 1152, an Airbus A-319... How the #$&% do you land a 319 at the wrong airport. Better yet, why was anyone in the front seats actually flying the aircraft? You'd think if the crew was going to pass time by flying the aircraft rather than playing cards that they'd pay some attention to where they were going. NWA crews should stick to just trying to find the right gate to pull up to and leave the landings to the back seat driver.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 07-06-2004 07:43 PM                  Yeah Rach! Quit yur bitching! ANY landing ya can walk away from is a GOOD landing! >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 07-06-2004 08:20 PM                        Hot cabin, bumpy flight, one wheel landing... Rach, that's every flight out here in the summer time.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 07-08-2004 07:04 PM                        If you're feeling newly emboldened after the trip into Boston, you could always try crossing the pond to Scotland and landing on Barra. It's the only airport handling scheduled flights in the world with a 'runway' on a beach. I once took off from it in a DHC-6 (having arrived on the island by ferry), and the spray which kicked up around the windows as it accelerated made it feel like being in a flying boat (not that I've ever been in a flying boat, though). You can walk on the runway area when it's not in use, and they raise a windsock above the terminal building to 'advise' you to get the hell out of the way when an arrival is imminent! You can see the tracks left by the landing gear of departing aircraft in the sand, which come to an abrupt stop at the point where they left the ground. Per mile that was probably the most expensive flight I've ever done (£150ish for the one-way journey from Barra to Glasgow - must be less than 100 miles), but it was worth it for the novelty value alone.  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 07-08-2004 07:24 PM                    Why would there be any problem keeping the cabin cool once you're airborne? Isn't it friggin cold outside? What is the temperature of compressor bleed air?  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 07-08-2004 09:48 PM                        Bleed air taken off the compressor stage is very very hot, so it needs to be run through a cooling stage (these days most commonly an ACM--Air Cycle Machine) to get it down to something humans can tolerate. Mix valves are used to mix bleed air with the output of the ACMs to regulate the cabin temperature. Hot days with long waits at idle power can lead to some warm cabin temps. Loss of an ACM or stuck mix valves can also cause a warm cabin. The DHC-6 Twin Otter (a.k.a. the Barf Bag Bomber or the Kool Aid Bomber at Scenic) is unpressurized so the cabin can get pretty hot in the summer here unless the freon gods are smiling upon you. Even when the AC worked it was still pretty hot with 21 people stuffed in the cabin for those July and August afternoon tour flights. Cabin heat via bleed air is available when operating in Canada. [ 07-08-2004, 11:08 PM: Message edited by: Paul Mayer ]  |  IP: Logged

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