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Author Topic: What Is The Validity Of Kazaa And Limewire? Matt Hefright Film Handler Posts: 28 From: none Registered: Jun 2004 posted 06-27-2004 01:17 AM                    a program designated as an mp3 would attempt to load into your mp3 playing software. once there the software would detect that the file is not an mp3 and would not play. there is no way that a virus could invade your system via mp3, jpg files. one could encode a virus into these files but to what avail. they cant run on their own. why waste your time when windows is so full of holes?  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 06-27-2004 01:46 AM                     Matt, if it does not play, just click on it like I did in Windows Explorer. It'll run.....just like it did when I tried it. The damn thing ran just fine under the program for which the file was written for. I just renamed a JPG to a MP3, and again Musicmatch tried to play it. It didn't work. If I open Painbrush, point to that file I renamed test.mp3, it'll open it in paintbrush as a JPG. Now, download a file called KMD.EXE, (don't open it) and rename it KMD.jpg. If you so desire to click on it as KMD.JPG in Windows Explorer, you can expect it to format your hard drive. Maybe I mis-understood what you are trying to say, but this is what I am talking about. Had that been an EXE file in disguise when I clicked on it in Windows Explorer, the exe file would have ran the program for what it was written for. Just like it did in my first experiment. My OS??? Windows 2000 Pro. Have not tried in in XP yet.  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 06-27-2004 09:13 AM                    I would presume kmd.jpg would open whatever program you have associated with the .jpg file extension. The program would come up and it would attempt to open kmd.jpg and tell you that it was not a valid .jpg file. Yes, you can take a real JPG and give it some other name and tell your imaging program to open it and it may. And your audio player may be willing to play an MP3 with an extension that is not .mp3. But that Winbloze will attempt to execute something that doesn't end in .exe, .com, .bat and perhaps a few others isn't likely. My Windoze (W98SE) doesn't. Renaming an .exe to .mp3 and clicking on it causes Winamp to open and try to play it.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-27-2004 10:00 AM                     Windows explorer doesn't always permit the proper editing of the file extension best to restart in dos and use the rename command and then the complete file properties will change  |  IP: Logged Ben Holley Film Handler Posts: 65 From: Texas Registered: Feb 2004 posted 06-27-2004 12:07 PM                    all you have to do in order to stay safe is when you search for an mp3 is be sure when you are on the search screen you select audio. if you want to stay safe when downloading programs stay clear of software patches and anything under 1 meg.(not to say that a virus scanner isnt a good idea)  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 06-27-2004 06:18 PM                     I only click on files I know are legit. If I have, as an example, a MP3 file that won't play in Musicmatch or Winamp, I'll delete it and NOT go to Windows Explorer to open it. Gord, any Windows platform will allow you to rename a file extension of a file. However, if that file is running, you cannot. Windows 3.1, 95, 98, ME, 2000 and XP's will allow this except under two circumstances that I know of: 1. The application is already running 2. The file attributes are set to "read only."  |  IP: Logged Will Morrow Film Handler Posts: 91 From: Mt. Pleasant, MI, USA Registered: Mar 2001 posted 06-27-2004 06:48 PM                        Paul, if you don't want to break the law, but still want mp3 files, the solution is pretty simple. Napster or ITunes is the way to go. They are not P2P services, but instead are music industry backed distributers. I have used Napster (im talking about the legal one) in the past, painless, but make sure your computer's clock settings are right. Long story there. LOL The best thing to do, is check the catalogues of both, then make a decision. I do think Napster offers a one price plan, for unlimited downloads now, so that might be cool for you. Hope this helps.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 06-28-2004 02:11 AM                     Thanks, Will. I will look into Napster again. I have deleted all the Kazaa and Limewire crap from my computers. I don't think I want to touch them with a 10-foot pole.  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 06-28-2004 06:33 AM                     Windows has the annoying habit of sometimes adding an extension to a filename, while retaining the existing one as well. It also has the habit of hiding the extension of filetypes which it thinks it knows about, unless you tell it not to. For example, you have a file caled abcdefg.exe; windows thinks it knows what a .exe file is, so it just displays abcdefg. You try to rename this to abcdefg.xyz, but if you're not careful you end up with a file called abcdefg.xyz.exe If Windows hides the extension again this displays as abcdefg.xyz, but is an exe file, and Windows will execute it. I never allow Windows to hide filename extensions. My, very limited, experience of Limewire is that computers which have it installed tend to run slower and be less reliable than similar machines which do not have it. Good reason to avoid it.  |  IP: Logged Matt Hefright Film Handler Posts: 28 From: none Registered: Jun 2004 posted 06-28-2004 12:17 PM                    yes you are changing the file name but windows knows you are lying. it sill knows what type of file that is. ie. test.mp3.jpg would be the actual name of the file. windows does not follow the 8.3 rule of naming any longer due to the rise of graphical user interface that we all enjoy! ( 8.3 would change your test.mp3 and see it then as an mp3 file only, not as an mp3 / jpg file.) true mp3 / jpg / mpeg files cannot carry any type of actual virii. with the only excpetion being mpeg / real / wma / video files can open a web site which then can give you the option to infect yourself via a yes no question.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 06-28-2004 02:59 PM                     Mike, ehat really frosts me is it worked the way I said yesterday, and today it didn't. So, I just mumble to myself and toos my arms up in the air.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 06-28-2004 05:34 PM                     I would agree that MP3 files and JPEG images are normally safe to download, but as Paul mentioned there are workarounds to fool the user through file renaming. Another trick criminals will use is to contain the malware in a .ZIP file. Many of the infected spam notes I see these days has harmful .SCR, .DOC and .PIF files hidden within a zipped file. In the end, I still strongly believe the movie and music industry folks will get a lot farther fighting piracy by scaring people away from P2P software rather than suing users over it. Fear of malware and the bland quality of current music are the two main reasons why I rarely ever run any P2P apps anymore.  |  IP: Logged

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