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Rachel Craven
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 - posted 06-29-2004 10:38 PM      Profile for Rachel Craven   Email Rachel Craven   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've already gotten my film-tech orgy from Don thank-you. I completely blame my moving to Wisconsin on FT, which leads me to blaming it on Brad. One film-tech guy is enough for me, I won't make that mistake again! [Big Grin]

Count me out. [evil] Phil's plenty of woman to cover me, Jennifer, and Gracia... lucky for you guys!

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Paul Linfesty
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 - posted 06-29-2004 11:15 PM      Profile for Paul Linfesty   Email Paul Linfesty   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I think one big F-T group hug is in order.

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Paul G. Thompson
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 - posted 06-29-2004 11:37 PM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
One thing that might help is a better search criteria for finding a topic/subject. As an example, I typed in a search box "Simplex SH-1000 Lateral Guide roller." The search box would not accept the last 2 letters of what was typed.

When I clicked "Search," I came back with 300 hits.

Now I, along with many members) don't have the time to search through all of them to find a thread directly relating to a specific item I wanted a comment on or one which I was seeking comments.

This confusion is not only frustrating, but it leaves the forum open for duplicate threads which seem to be happening at a more frequent rate.

I disagree with the idea that people are too lazy to perform a search. The search hits may just be overwelming.

A possible solution is to dump (literally) archives that are over 1 year old. That might help.

I have a feeling I might have made a post that may prove unpopular, but it is only a suggestion to try and make things just a little better for all of us. [Smile]

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 06-29-2004 11:46 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
I don't know how you are operating the search engine, but I pasted that into the engine and came up with 2 results, both on target. [Confused]

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Regarding deleting the archives, that's a horrible idea. There are many things that have been posted here over the years that are simply not documented in equipment manuals or anywhere else.

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Richard Greco
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 - posted 06-29-2004 11:53 PM      Profile for Richard Greco   Email Richard Greco   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm pretty danged stressed. I'm not gonna be this weekend though. This is the first weekend off I've had in 9 months!!! I'm gonna relax. Maybe check out Spidey 2 (Couldn't tongiht because I was working through the start of our 12:01 am show) and go to the 4th of July celebration!!

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Paul G. Thompson
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 - posted 06-30-2004 12:19 AM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Brad, the option you used provided two hits, just like your example. Your checked box was "Match all search terms above."

I used "Match any of the terms above."

If I used the keyword "SH-1000" in "Match all search terms above," I came up with 52 hits. The oldest dating back to 11-17-1999. That's 3.5 years ago. Too much stuff to sort through.

I tried to upload the one that had 300 hits but the upload failed. I sent it to you via email instead.

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 06-30-2004 12:38 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Paul, that is absolutely the wrong way to use a search engine. If you select "match ANY", then every time the word Simplex was used, it will display all of the threads using the word "Simplex". Also, every time SH-1000 was used, it will display all of the threads using the word "SH-1000". The same goes for the word lateral, and the word guide and the word roller. Can you imagine how many results you would've gotten had you added the word film into that line? See the problem? It's operator error.

The only time you would want to use the "match ANY" option would be if you are searching for something that is commonly mispelled. For example, if you search for filmguard, you will get all of the results based upon people who know how it is spelled. However we all know that people like to call it "film-guard", so if you searched for filmguard film-guard using the "match ANY" option, you would see all of the results based upon those two spellings of the name. Unfortunately in this example some people call it "film guard". In that instance you would have to enter that part in quotes since you don't want to turn up with every instance of the word "film". For example:

filmguard film-guard "film guard"

Make sense?

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Paul G. Thompson
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 - posted 06-30-2004 12:44 AM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, operator error or not is not the concern. I typed in SH-1000 in Any terms and came up with 5 hits I think it was.

I was only pointing out what others have also experienced as well as myself. Whether it be selected "All" or "Any", there is just too much to search through unless we know the exact topic name.

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Adam Martin
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 - posted 06-30-2004 12:48 AM      Profile for Adam Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Adam Martin       Edit/Delete Post 
Choosing "ALL" will require ALL of the words in the search to be present in the thread. Choosing "ANY" will require only ONE of the words to be present in the thread.

That's why you should be specific in your keyword choice and start with ALL. If that doesn't give you the results you want, then change your keywords or choose ANY, hence the operator error.

If it were up to us, we'd dump the crappy UBB software entirely in favor of a ranked-results search (damn Google for dumbing down the internet), but none of us has the time right now to write new software, as evidenced by the lack of updates on the front page. I don't even have time to finish typing this ...

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Paul G. Thompson
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 - posted 06-30-2004 12:49 AM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks, Adam. [Smile]

You just said basically what I was trying to say. Some of us don't have time to search through all that stuff.

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 06-30-2004 12:50 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Sorry you don't get how a search engine works, Paul. Regardless the engine DOES work if used properly. If someone is too lazy to spend at least 5 minutes making an effort to find the answer to a question before they ask it, all they are doing is saying that they are too lazy to make any effort and they want the answer spoon fed to them. As such, if someone asks a simple question and I can find it in 1 minute's time using the search engine, that's pretty pathetic for the poster to be wasting everyone's time.

Regardless, it's operator error...and "ALL" is the default setting, by the way.

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Paul G. Thompson
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 - posted 06-30-2004 12:53 AM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, I am sorry. I think MSIE has done a marvelous job for me. It has always done what I expected to. [Smile]

I will offer no more suggestions on how to make Film-Tech better, since I am always wrong in the first place.

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 06-30-2004 01:03 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Paul G. Thompson
I think MSIE has done a marvelous job for me. It has always done what I expected to.
Now you've got me baffled. What does Internet Explorer have to do with the forum's search engine?

[Confused] [Confused] [Confused]

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Paul G. Thompson
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 - posted 06-30-2004 01:14 AM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That's what I would like to know....... [Smile]

Actually, if you have 1,500 people what "ALL" meant and what "Any" meant, you would probably have 3,000 different answers. [Big Grin]

In public relations training classes in the US Navy, one experiment we did was to have someone start a story that was read from a script. Each class member told another (in secret) and was relayed down the line with about 12 people. When the story got back to the orginator, there was absolutey no similarity of the story whatsoever.

It was how the story was perceived as it passes from one to another.

It is all how it is preceived at the time.

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Mike Blakesley
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 - posted 06-30-2004 02:04 AM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You guys seem a little stressed out. [Wink]

[beer]

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