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Adam Martin
I'm not even gonna point out the irony.

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posted 07-04-2004 02:23 PM

I was recomposing my post because I mis-remembered something in the article that I went off on. [Smile]

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Pravin Ratnam
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posted 07-04-2004 03:16 PM

Principle shminciple. That would be like me if I were a cable carrier and I refused FOX news a spot on my lineup because of its propaganda. There is almost no difference. I am not saying that he SHOULD carry it, but to say "absolutely no way" is depriving people in his area a valid choice. If there are a lot of theaters, then all this guy does is hurt his bottomline. On the other hand, if there aren't many theaters, then he is hindering the community's access to a movie.

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Brian Michael Weidemann
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posted 07-04-2004 03:55 PM

So it's a theatre's responsibility to provide a public service to its community, showing films the local area demands?

Maybe a good-hearted, small town, mom- & pop-owned theatre has this in mind, but I hardly think chains are considering the well-being of the public and offering them fair choices of diversely themed subject matter films.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 07-04-2004 06:19 PM

Terrorists have attacked every theater showing this movie so far. Of course such a comment makes me a moron, but it falls in line with the logic that particular theater owner is using.

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Pravin Ratnam
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posted 07-04-2004 11:55 PM

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So it's a theatre's responsibility to provide a public service to its community, showing films the local area demands?

No, but that looks like what the owner is suggesting he is doing - providing a public service by not showing the movie.

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Maybe a good-hearted, small town, mom- & pop-owned theatre has this in mind, but I hardly think chains are considering the well-being of the public and offering them fair choices of diversely themed subject matter films.

No, but chains do consider money. F911 brings in money. Once again, I didn't say, he MUST show it. But depending on the market size, it's possible he could be acting as the defacto censor for the town's movietheater going public.

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William Hooper
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posted 07-05-2004 12:13 AM

Interestingly, titles getting shut out of theatres & restraint of trade was the basis for the FTC suit against the major studios which ultimately (decades later) broke up the vertical integration of the studios & theatres with the Paramount Consent Decrees. It's also interesting that during the decades of appeal & being ordered to stop, the studio-exhibition chains just kept right on until the appeals plainly were at an end.

http://www.cinemaweb.com/silentfilm/bookshelf/#June1997

http://www.homevideo.net/FIRM/antitrst.htm

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R. Andrew Diercks
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From: Marion, Iowa (In the middle of everywhere)
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posted 07-08-2004 10:22 AM

As a manager of a Fridley Theatre, I feel I have a duty to respond to this.
First off, the quote about inciting terrorism was not from Bob Fridley, but rather a critic that he quoted. Second, that was an "inner office e-mail" and IMHO the manager that leaked it should be fired. Had he/she kept this to it's purpose, nobody would be talking about it. Thirdly:

quote: Steve Kraus
But his logic is rather silly. It would be more honest to simply come out and say he is a Bush supporter and doesn't want to undermine his guy. I would respect that more than some tripe about encouraging terrorism.

It has nothing to do with supporting Bush. We won't support or target any canditate. Just as we would not allow a candidate to campaign in our lobbys. We also will not sell ad space to political candidates. Please read the "official press release" at www.fridleytheatres.com

I find it very interesting that since we won't play a liberal propoganda film, we are automatically Bush supporters and censors. We would not play a film supporting Bush either, just as we do not play pornography, but I guess that's censorship too [Confused]

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Keep in mind my comments are not those of my company. The only "official" comment from our company is on the website.

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Mitchell Dvoskin
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posted 07-08-2004 10:43 AM

quote: William Hooper
Interestingly, titles getting shut out of theatres & restraint of trade was the basis for the FTC suit against the major studios which ultimately (decades later) broke up the vertical integration of the studios & theatres with the Paramount Consent Decrees.

There does not appear to be any anti-trust issues here. At no point does the the anti-trust laws require a company to carry all available product. The Fridley theatres is not in competion with any film distributors, they can play (or not) whatever they want.

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Bob Brown
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posted 07-15-2004 05:04 PM

Here is a different view from a theatre owner:

http://www.woodtv.com/global/story.asp?s=2045763

Lewisburg, Pennsylvania-AP -- A theater operator is offering Republicans the chance to see the movie, "Fahrenheit 9/11" for free.

Eric Faden of Lewisburg, Pennsylvania, says he found that few of his conservative friends were watching the movie because they didn't want to support the film's director financially.

So on Saturday he's offering to buy tickets for any card-carrying Republicans who want to see it at a special showing.

Faden says he's not trying to convince anyone that director Michael Moore is right. He says the film is "fantastic" but also "fantastically flawed."

A local Republican leader is praising Faden for trying to open up the debate about the film.

However, Faden may not be able to fill his theater, even for free.

A C-N-N - U-S-A Today - Gallup poll finds that 63 percent of Republicans who were surveyed have no plans to see the movie.

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