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Author Topic: If you're drunk and you know it, post here Jeremy Fuentes Mmmm, Dr. Pepper! Posts: 1168 From: Corpus Christi, TX United States Registered: Jan 2004 posted 08-01-2004 08:03 PM                     I rarely drink, but I am as cool as the other side of the pillow.  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 08-01-2004 10:19 PM                    OK, if everyone wants to get a little buzzed that's fine but if they start peeing on the side of the forums then fun and games are over!  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 08-02-2004 03:40 AM                     quote: Ryan Luby My school, Eau Claire Wait, you go to UWEC?! We'll have to hit Water Street together some night, or a house party if you aren't 21 yet (and don't have a fake ).  |  IP: Logged William Hooper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1879 From: Mobile, AL USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-02-2004 03:51 AM                        Jason Burroughs is correct, Congress passed a law witholding federal highway money from states which did not raise the dinking age to 21. It was blackmail; even the bill's proponents called it that, but they didn't care if it acheived their ends. Personally, I think it's one of the stupidest things done. The impact was minuscule on highway safety, it's bigoted in its viewpoint of 'It was OK when I drank at that age, but we were somehow more different than you little rapscallions', & it's brought about destructive social changes. I've noticed a HUGE change in drinking behavior in young people since the drinking age was raised to 21. Instead of hitting 18, going to a club & having a drink to loosen inhibitions & refine social skills, now the point is to just get drunk. Learned at a club, since the primary objective was socializing, folks didn't get so damn drunk because they lost ability to socialize & achieve their objective. Now, like in the days of prohibition, there's a 'find booze & drink to intoxication' objective. Drink while ya got 'em. It's stupid to think young folks won't be looking for alcohol. In moderation, which they're not learning now, it's never more enjoyable than when you're 18 - 21. There's little that can compare with a social drink at that age in a club, or splitting a couple of beers or bottles of wine while sitting at the beach with friends at night watching the stars & stuff. By about 21 - 22, it's really more of a learned custom. The drinking behavior that's learned at that age continues afterwards. 22 & 23 year-olds are now still getting overwhelmingly plastered while drinking, & doing it more often since they can then get alcohol more easily (legally). It's like the aftermath of prohibition, when for decades after the adult population had a much larger, unsurprisedly to all, population of drunks that couldn't moderate at parties, had their problem exacerbated into showing up hungover & plastered at work, etc.  |  IP: Logged Carl Martin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1424 From: Oakland, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 08-02-2004 04:22 AM                        i very rarely drinkk, but this htread has insprired me!  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 08-02-2004 04:25 AM                        We've seen a similar thing happen here, though I'm not sure that it's entirely age-related. The way alcohol is served in public seems to be more geared to getting pissed quick than to having a drink or two as a social activity. Chain pubs with a large floorspace (basically, aircraft hangars with a bar at one end) but very few seats and tables are opening up all over the place and most of them run 'happy hour' promotions. While the Brits have always traditionally drunk beer in pints, it has until recently been home-grown stuff with an alcohol content of 2-3%. Over the last 10-15 years European lagers of 5-7%, also served by the pint, increasingly became the young thug's beverage of choice (hence the term 'lager lout'): even though if you go to their countries of origin you'll find that they're hardly ever served in quantities larger than a 330cl bottle. And finally, there is the 11pm mandatory closing time, which encourages those who don't know better to get as pissed as possible before the deadline. There are some well-run pubs, which have plenty of tables, the day's newspapers, quiet music if any and an atmosphere which encourages having a drink as one part - but not the only part - of going out in the evening or a weekend lunchtime, but they're increasingly becoming the exception which proves the rule. Unless we can start to convince teenagers away from the idea that the only justification for having a drink at all is to get totally and utterly trollied, then it really doesn't matter what we make the legal minimum age: alcohol abuse will continue to be a major social problem.  |  IP: Logged

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