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Richard Greco
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 - posted 09-02-2004 11:46 PM      Profile for Richard Greco   Email Richard Greco   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We have a friend in Miami that if his 1st choice of Naples is getting hit, he's coming here. On the other hand, I expect the pizza delivery business to be busy tomorrow. My former theatre already took down their marquee. One local gas station is out of gas. I filled up earlier tonight @ 7-11 just to be safe. It sucks though that Polk County is gonna get hit with another storm in less than a month. I'm not too worried though.

Just gotta be prepared.

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Dean Kollet
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 - posted 09-03-2004 12:34 AM      Profile for Dean Kollet   Email Dean Kollet   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
to show you how crowded the highways are....

my parents live in Melbourne, FL (the center of the projected landfall estimationg as of now) and they drove up here with our dog to stay with me until the storm dies down. The drive takes 4.5 hours tops and it took them over 12 hours!!!

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William Hooper
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 - posted 09-03-2004 01:34 AM      Profile for William Hooper   Author's Homepage   Email William Hooper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
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My source for accurate weather information is Weather Underground

They are all getting their data from NWS & re-packaging, altering, or re-interpreting it, from websites to the companies that re-package for industrial wx services for offshore oil companies, etc., ESPECIALLY to the guy on your TV who points at the weather.

The drawback with this re-packaging, re-organizing, & re-interpreting is that some need to just alter the material slightly to establish "brand differentiation", even though the NWS material is always the most accurate. As it gets further down the line, you get to things like the Yahoo link to the storm's predicted path which is STILL just a new graphic based on the NWS graphic produced for the data at 5am 9/2/2004. The NWS has revised those probablities about 5 times since, but Yahoo seemed to think that it's a static, locked prediction when they stumbled across it yesterday.

Watch the folks on TV or check whatever website you like, most if they're moderately intent on being more informational will say something like "we'll have another update at about 5 a.m" or whatever. Yes, that's the time of the next update from the NWS, which always notes when the next advisory will be issued.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT1+shtml/030245.shtml?

All you have to do is read the NWS info, note when the next advisory will be, then re-check at that time when the advisory comes across. The rest is just people on the weather channel standing outside in the rain looking like they don't have sense to go inside. Why are you out there?

For tornadoes, etc., it's the NWS storm center in KC, for tropical weather it's the hurricane center in Miami, etc. They network & use data not only from their own offices, but from independent centers. It's all diffused from NWS.

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Yesterday at 5am, there was more confidence that it would still make landfall & then go northwards through the state, though it was already looking more likely to break west. Now it looks more likely to push further west & go across the state, then northwards in a phenomenon known locally as "There goes the Weekend." You still see the evacuation problems for FL. The problem with a hurricane going across the panhandle & folks moving "inland" is that they're going to be either sitting on the dirty side before it hits, or in it afterwards. It may still head north (remember that white area is still what's in the range of probabilities, & the line is only a mean), so the folks up that way won't be guaranteed safety. It's a crapshoot.

Also, when the TS gets back over the water, it can re-develop into a hurricane to cause more fun.

One of the worst things to deal with locally is always people being overwhelmed by fear or too lazy to think about complex problems, then refusing to think about the problems & saying "well, no matter where you are, if it's your time, you'll go", or "the weather is unpredictable, there's no point in getting too upset because there's nothing you can do", "I'm staying, if the Lord wants me to go there's nothing I can do", etc. Well, doofus, if you stand in front of a train, the Lord will decide it's time for you to go. People who decide to "ride it out" & survive always decide it indicates they're "chosen", & those that die have to have their friends & neighbors consoled for months with that sermon joke about the guy in the flood who keeps saying "The Lord will provide" until he dies & reaches St. Peter. Having to hear that thing over & over for months afterwards is some of the most horrible lingering damage after a hurricane.

[ 09-03-2004, 04:06 AM: Message edited by: William Hooper ]

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Richard Fowler
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 - posted 09-03-2004 07:19 AM      Profile for Richard Fowler   Email Richard Fowler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Quiet this morning in Miami due to the storm being stalled in the Bahamas.....gives us a few more hours to tighten a few more screws. Our friend, Patty, who lives in West Palm Beach and is one of the regional directors of the South Florida Water Management Authority ( canals, dikes, flood gate control ), her main fear is the dike integrity on the North side of Lake Okeecobee. The dikes can handle up to 19 feet of storm surge....as long as they do not fail.

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Jeremy Fuentes
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 - posted 09-03-2004 08:53 AM      Profile for Jeremy Fuentes   Email Jeremy Fuentes   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
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From Astronomy Picture of the Day.

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Manny Knowles
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 - posted 09-03-2004 10:40 AM      Profile for Manny Knowles   Email Manny Knowles   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My mom phoned at about 8am (ET) to say that Frances was just hitting Nassau. They were originally expecting it at 2am but it slowed down...which is bad because the longer a hurricane stays over water, the stronger it can get.

At the time of the phone call, Nassau was experiencing sustained winds of about 80-85mph. By comparison, we were subjected to much stronger winds during Michelle and Floyd. The island does not appear to be in the path of Frances' eye -- centered about 40mi away at 8am today -- if that remains true, they would be spared from the strongest of the winds (120+ mph).

Predictably, Nassau is presently without electricity since about 10pm last night. At least part of the island is expected to lose telephone service.

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Ken Lackner
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 - posted 09-05-2004 04:16 AM      Profile for Ken Lackner   Email Ken Lackner   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Okay. I'm scared. I've never been through anything like this. Every time I've prepared for a hurricane, it's never hit where I lived, at least nothing major happened. This is different. The entire state will be affected. And damn! It screws up my plans for California! [Frown]

Richard G, you're lucky only one gas station was out. By 9am Thursday, 3 out of 5 stations that I saw in Boca were out. I waited about half an hour in line to fill up. How long did you have to wait?

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 09-05-2004 09:58 AM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
"The dikes can handle up to 19 feet of storm surge....as long as they do not fail."

Well, if the dikes do fall at least the Everglades will be instantly restored to its before the Army Corpse of engineers chapter. The gators will appreciate that.

Mark

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Tony Bandiera Jr
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 - posted 09-06-2004 01:38 AM      Profile for Tony Bandiera Jr   Email Tony Bandiera Jr   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Can't these poor folks in Florida catch a break? Just saw in tonight's news that yet another hurricane is predicted to land there, this time Hurricane Ivan. Enough already!! Nature can be a mother sometimes. [thumbsdown]

Here on the left coast UCLA's eggheads have predicted a magnititude 6.4 or higher quake for the Palm Springs area. It was supposed to have hit by today. Instead we've got record heat, which I'm sure the folks in Florida would rather have.

Take care folks, hope you all get through this safely!!

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Richard Fowler
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 - posted 09-06-2004 08:33 AM      Profile for Richard Fowler   Email Richard Fowler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yes, because of Ivan and the short holiday week we are leaving up some of the more "hernia to move" storm shutters if it appears on Saturday [uhoh]

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Richard Greco
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 - posted 09-06-2004 09:40 AM      Profile for Richard Greco   Email Richard Greco   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Has anybody in the hurricane area had to go to work yesterday? My boss at Domino's opened yesterday. I worked from 5pm to 11pm. He was a crazy man to do this, but word spread that we were the only food place open besides Applebees and in the 7pm - 8pm hour, we made 62 pizzas. That is a shitload of pizzas.

This store averages 9,000 dollars in sales/week. The store made 3000 dollars yesterday alone.

Ken, as of today, I think there is one station in Plant City with gas. Gotta fill up today before I go to work.

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Jon Miller
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 - posted 09-06-2004 10:35 AM      Profile for Jon Miller   Email Jon Miller   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Speaking of gas stations...The TV news here showed footage of gas station canopies blown off or knocked over by the strong winds. I'm wondering -- did most gas stations survive or did a number of them suffer storm-related canopy damage?

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William Hooper
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 - posted 09-07-2004 01:04 AM      Profile for William Hooper   Author's Homepage   Email William Hooper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Go to Florida, Ivan! They already tore up!
No need of making a mess EVERYWHERE.

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Bruce McGee
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 - posted 09-09-2004 06:32 AM      Profile for Bruce McGee   Email Bruce McGee   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Frances came up thru the east coast yesterday. Asheville only had about 5 inches of rain, but we had alot of flooding. My car got soaked, my basement in my home flooded, and our local water system sustained damage when two main feeder lines at the dam burst. This morning, no water. Glad I got a 1/2 bathtub full last night. Goodbye Frances! Dont come back!

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Jason Black
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 - posted 09-09-2004 01:43 PM      Profile for Jason Black   Author's Homepage   Email Jason Black   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
William,
I hope your last post was in jest.

Bruce,
COunt your blessings! It could have been much worse. EVERYONE made out lightly with Francis... IVAN, OTOH is a dif'rent story. Looks like this bastage could do some real bad damage if he actually makes it to the southern coast... I'm hoping it takes a westward track and crosses the gulf. You Texas folks can handle a good storm every once in a while, right?

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