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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 10-26-2004 03:59 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You mean that you think the band was actually playing?

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Richard Greco
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 - posted 10-26-2004 08:25 AM      Profile for Richard Greco   Email Richard Greco   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You can easily tell the band was actually playing.

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David Buckley
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 - posted 10-26-2004 08:37 AM      Profile for David Buckley   Author's Homepage   Email David Buckley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah, I think they were, especially after the backing track was faded out. The left hand guitarist looks like having a full panic moment prior to grabbing the volume knob, and (given the limited resolution) it looks like everyone is playing what they sound like.

Many artists even when playing live with a live band still have backing tracks with second lead vocals (for decent double tracking of weak vocalists) and backup vocals, extra keyboards or strings etc. Unless you either have a simple sound or a big band, you cant create that "big" pop sound live. Tapes bridge the gap.

It used to be fairly easy to tell - if the drummer was wearing headphones he was syncing to something, and it it probably wasn't a human on the stage. Probably a click track on tape. May be from a sequencer, but then you could argue thats much the same as a tape...

Anyway, syncing live to tape is not a strategy without risk, and I've seen some impressively redundant systems used over the years so that (for example) tape breaking doesnt cause a problem (two syncronised eight track tape decks) or a power cable being kicked out (dual supplies). However, if someone loads the wrong tape (or the modern digital equivalent) then there isnt a lot anyone can do, the show has, as they say, turned to custard.

And that is when you find out what your performer is made of. The band certainly played on, what else would you expect them to do, but without Simpson Jr. Oh dear.

My suspicion is that apart from cueing the wrong song, the second lead vocal was far to high in level, and the sound op didnt spot that Ashleeee was vocal-less as the canned vocal boomed out. If this is indeed the case, then he certainly didnt do her any favours. I would not like to be in his shoes... Actually, I'd be embarassed to be in his shoes, that was a definite suck moment.

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Andrew McCrea
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 - posted 10-10-2005 10:04 PM      Profile for Andrew McCrea   Author's Homepage   Email Andrew McCrea   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, did anyone catch Ashlee's return to SNL last Saturday?

It sounded like someone took two cats and was banging their heads together.

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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 10-10-2005 10:14 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I tried to watch the show, but it was incredibly unfunny. It was required to turn the television off because of this.

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Robert Harrison
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 - posted 10-13-2005 04:32 PM      Profile for Robert Harrison   Email Robert Harrison   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks for posting that clip, Joe. That's the funniest thing I have seen on SNL since the Pope showed up to rip up a picture of Sinead O'Connor!

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Andy Summers
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 - posted 10-14-2005 10:55 AM      Profile for Andy Summers         Edit/Delete Post 
Not huge fan myself….on the other hand….
[rachel] Your more attractive than Ashlee Simpson

lip-syncs I hate miming bunch of phoney creeps, where was the trap door leading to the pit full of alligators…. [eyes]

The performance sticks [bs] get them off…. [puke] [puke]

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Rachel Craven
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 - posted 10-15-2005 08:10 PM      Profile for Rachel Craven   Email Rachel Craven   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Uh thanks... [Wink] Too bad I'm not that cute anymore... Although, I don't really look like my current picture anymore either, my hair is longer again.

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Andy Summers
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 - posted 10-15-2005 08:38 PM      Profile for Andy Summers         Edit/Delete Post 
Rachel’

Hay I’m easy going Rachel’ so your cute cuddly and I’M SINGLE pity I’m on this side of the Atlantic I’d invite you over for dinner and a flick…oh well fresh tactics.

Still pretty looking than "Ashlee Simpson" though she’s way too young for me, LOL. Oh just been playing this virtual cinema game, I like it when I see it available on this side of the world I’ll buy it, though I hope it plays on “Windows Me.”
[Smile]

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Joe Redifer
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Lucky you Rachel... such a following you have!

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Rachel Craven
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Yup, everyone loves me! [Razz] All these FT men, I'm so lucky... And Jeeze, everyone thinks I'm so old!!!! Older then Ashlee Simpson, yes, but younger then her sister!

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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People your age are ancient! [Wink]

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Andy Summers
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Daryl’

Well that will make you 105 Daryl’ wow just what is your secret?
[thumbsup]

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