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Pete Naples
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 - posted 12-15-2004 03:01 AM      Profile for Pete Naples   Email Pete Naples   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
And since when were the Scottish Highland NOT 'UK Inland'?!!

This sort of thing winds me up, try getting a courier to take projector parts up here (I'm not in the Highland region) on a next day delivery. Not a hope.

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Leo Enticknap
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 - posted 12-15-2004 04:53 AM      Profile for Leo Enticknap   Author's Homepage   Email Leo Enticknap   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Look on the bright side - at least you're not in the Western Isles, Orkney or Shetland. The cost of courier-ing anything there must be astronomical.

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Thomas King
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 - posted 12-15-2004 05:16 AM      Profile for Thomas King   Author's Homepage   Email Thomas King   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If you're running yellow lights two close, you deserve a fine.

(I'm a pedestrian, you know).

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Paul Trimboli
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 - posted 12-15-2004 07:21 AM      Profile for Paul Trimboli   Email Paul Trimboli   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hahahahah that stupid spray! They did a test on a Current Affair in Austrlia and showed how it DOES NOT WORK! Sure it works when the picture is normal, but they made it into a negative or something and adjusted the levels from the photo and BINGO they got the number. Now I work for the company that fixes the Photovixes which are what are used to read the negs from the cameras, I should try it one day!

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Randy Stankey
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 - posted 12-15-2004 09:38 AM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Carl Martin

how good are your brakes?

Obviously not as good as your accelerator pedal! [Wink] [Big Grin]

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Thomas Procyk
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quote: Randy Stankey
That also means you can't UNDO it. If you put it on and later you decide it's a stupid idea (Which it is) you can't get it off. If this stuff turns out to be illegal and a cop catches you with it, you're toast. Even if all you wanted to do was just to "check it out".
Not necessarily true. If you can proove you purchased the product before it became illegal by means of a receipt or credit card statement, a good lawyer might get you off. If they want to confiscate the can, I think they have to pay you for it too. Ex Post Facto law or something.

=TMP=

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Randy Stankey
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My guess is that the stuff is made of clear lacquer that's been impregnated with glass beads or something. Once it's sprayed on, it probably can't be removed unless you risk removing the paint underneath. THAT's what I mean that you can't undo.

IF you get stopped AND you can prove that you did this before a given law came into affect then, I agree. It would be an Ex Post Facto law. However, that doesn't mean they can't nab you for something else!

I can virtually guarantee that there is a law in every state to the effect that you can't alter or your license plate. They could grab you on that. Then they could make you turn in your old license plate and get a new one. Then they could make you pay all the associated fees and fines involved in replacing an adulterated plate. If I memory serves, I believe the license plate on your car remains the property of the state. At least they can make you surrender it on demand, even if that's not true.

If they want your ass, they'll think up SOMETHING to nail you with!

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Steve Kraus
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 - posted 12-16-2004 10:50 AM      Profile for Steve Kraus     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I would think this would be somewhat visible to the eye, depending on the angle of the sun, etc.

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Mark J. Marshall
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 - posted 12-16-2004 01:54 PM      Profile for Mark J. Marshall     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Steve Kraus
depending on the angle of the sun, etc.
Hmm. Makes me wonder how much of a hazard it could be at say reflecting headlights back at the driver behind you.

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Tim Reed
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 - posted 12-16-2004 02:47 PM      Profile for Tim Reed   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Randy Stankey
Easy... Don't go through! Just sit there. Put the car in park and wait
NO! You pull through, pull over to the shoulder, park, and get it settled if you are so inclined. GO!! Don't hold a hundred people up and create a traffic jam (or a bigger jam) because of your misfortune.

This is what causes a lot of traffic tie-ups and accidents; people who think they're the only ones on the road, and give no thought or consideration to what's behind them.

Here's something else that causes me to lay on my air horn... people who DON'T READ SIGNS and follow an EZ-PASS lane all the way to the booth, where they STOP and wonder what to do (or, worse, try to BACK UP!). The western spur of the Jersey Turnpike, outside NYC, has high-speed EZ-PASS lanes. You go through at 55 mph, and the cash people have to stop and go through the toll plaza on the right. For TWO MILES big signs say, "EZ-PASS only, left lanes. Tickets, right lanes", then, "EZ-PASS ONLY, left lanes", and "EZ-PASS ONLY". Don't you know, nearly everytime I go through there, there's some dumb SOB BACKING UP on the freakin' freeway, creating a dangerous condition, because he can't pay attention!!! [Mad]

And, speaking of EZ-PASS... they DO clock your speed going through there. I found this out the hard way. The speed limit in PA (and on the George Washington Bridge) is only 5mph through the standard EZ-PASS toll booth lanes, and I used to take my 75' tractor-trailer through there at 35 sometimes (watch those mirrors!!). [Wink] I just figured the speed limit was because that's what the equipment needed to work - to read the transponders - and since I kept getting green lights, I figured it was working and kept going through faster and faster. Then, one day, I started getting "Call EZ-PASS" lights. They'd suspended my transponder! My company got another one for me, but now I never go more than 5 over the posted.

Although, one day, I'd love to blow through at about 70! I know I could do it and not hit anything. [Big Grin]

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Mike Blakesley
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 - posted 12-16-2004 06:43 PM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The cell phone jammers on that site are far more interesting!

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Bobby Henderson
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 - posted 12-16-2004 10:22 PM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Colorado Springs is lousy with traffic cameras. They're all over the place. At any significant intersection, there's at least four of them pointing into the intersection. Some are the type that bust you for running red lights. Some merely watch traffic levels to allow manual adjustment of green light and red light times. Others are there for things like accidents and road conditions. The trouble is you can't tell them apart. They all look the same. I think the ones in this photo are for busting red light runners. They're pointed down into the intersection.

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As far as I know, Oklahoma has no red light traffic cameras in use...yet. I would expect that to change fairly soon, especially up in Tulsa. Certain intersections in Tulsa (specifically along Memorial Road) often appear in top 10 lists of most dangerous intersections in the United States.

Oklahoma does have lots of automatic cameras installed at all the toll booths along the state's turnpikes. Most take at least two exposures. One of the vehicle plate and another of the vehicle's front, which often shows you behind the wheel.

quote: Thomas King
If you're running yellow lights two close, you deserve a fine (I'm a pedestrian, you know).
If you're walking across the street while the light is turning yellow for the direction of traffic, you deserve fine. You're jay-walking. And you may be suicidal (at least you would be here in Oklahoma).

quote: Tim Reed
EZ-PASS only, left lanes. Tickets, right lanes
Yeah. Automated toll tags are pretty nice...if you're on a turnpike where your pass works. In Oklahoma, the OTA has its Pike Pass system that works statewide. And you really need one if you're going to drive on the turnpikes here since many toll booths are automated/unmanned. The new H.E. Bailey Turnpike spur off I-44 going to Norman has no attendants at its toll booths. You can pay in exact change or hit the Pike Pass lanes. Each exact change lane has a bill changer. But what if you have pesky bills that won't work or the changer has no more change? You're stuck.

My Oklahoma Pike Pass looks kind of like a bar of soap on my windshield. And it's about as good as that if I'm driving on toll roads in Texas. Talk about a growing clusterf**k in the making. Texas has at least two or three different toll tag systems for highways in Houston, Dallas-Fort Worth and Austin. Why not have at least a statewide standard? With more states having to build toll roads for highway expansion, the need really exists for a national standard of pass that works on any turnpike. I'd like to be able to use the same pass on the Kansas Turnpike if I drive to Wichita, or the Creek Turnpike in Tulsa, or the Bush Tollway north of Dallas. Who wants to keep multiple turnpike tags or worry about having the right amount of change on hand when driving? I'm sure truckers would love a national standard for 'pike passes.

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William Hooper
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quote: Tim Reed
This is what causes a lot of traffic tie-ups and accidents; people who think they're the only ones on the road, and give no thought or consideration to what's behind them.
And that's not just observational. All traffic studies point out that it's not so much that speed that is a causal factor in crashes, it's that differences in speed that are dangerous. In countries where speed limits are *much* higher, accidents are fewer, because flow is managed by enforcing laws that traffic is to stay to one side except when overtaking. You can see these accidents starting to occur on US interstates when 2 vehicles, both traveling 5 or 10 mph below the limit, are side by side on a two-lane & traffic is bunching up behind them. One dog running out, spilled coffee, fooling with the radio, etc., & it's mass destruction. Those are the SCARIEST traffic situations to be in.

quote: Tim Reed
Here's something else that causes me to lay on my air horn... people who DON'T READ SIGNS
I always thought they just COULDN'T. You can tell all the people on their way to remedial reading classes, because they aren't able to read the signs that say KEEP RIGHT EXCEPT TO PASS, SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT, MAINTAIN SPEED, etc. It wouldn't be very charitable to assume that they're just inconsiderate, oblivious, & wilfully dangerous.

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Tim Reed
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quote: Bobby Henderson
I'm sure truckers would love a national standard for 'pike passes.
It's getting better. EZ-PASS works over several states here in the northeast.

I have 3 transponders on my windshield: EZ-PASS, Oklahoma Turnpike, and Pre-Pass (to bypass certain weigh stations/weigh-in-motion); and about 5 different toll road credit cards. But, it's better than having to pay it out of my pocket and get reimbursed later.

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Bill Enos
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 - posted 12-18-2004 09:29 AM      Profile for Bill Enos   Email Bill Enos   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It seems to have well established at many northern Va. intersections where red light cameras have been installed that the yellow light has been reduced to slightly more than a blink, thus enhancing revenues. The handling of photos and equipment installztion is done by a private company that works with local cops and receives a small percentage of each fine collected. Authorities say there's nothing wrong with this!

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