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Ron Yost
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 - posted 12-31-2004 07:16 PM      Profile for Ron Yost   Email Ron Yost   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I think people should be given a DISCOUNT for attending a theatre which shows such crap, not have to pay more to attend one who doesn't.

They're paying to get sold to, fer pete's sake. Nonsense, says I. (Fortunately my local family-owned mini-plex doesn't show any ads at all .. not even slides.)

Do you guys/ladies who work for chains showing ads make more money than those who work other places that don't?? Do you have great benefits thanks to the 'extra' corporate takings?? Didn't think so. [Big Grin] [evil]

Just because something's become 'accepted', and there's no apparent hue and cry against it, doesn't make it 'right', and creative blame-shifting corporate rationalization (spin) doesn't either. (Even though some of the ads are probably better than the crap films following them!) [Smile]

Besides, haven't we been down this road many, many times b4?

Ron Yost .. Happy ads-less New Year! [thumbsup] Come to Paso Robles and see GREAT presentations with NO ads!!

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Mike Olpin
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 - posted 12-31-2004 07:36 PM      Profile for Mike Olpin   Email Mike Olpin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Does the little "Universal Studios" theme park snipe after the blue band really annoy anyone else? It bugs me a lot.

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Jason Black
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 - posted 12-31-2004 10:54 PM      Profile for Jason Black   Author's Homepage   Email Jason Black   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Just remember,
When you guys hear that sponsorship on the answering devices.. you heard it HERE first.... [thumbsup]

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Barry Martin
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 - posted 01-01-2005 12:03 AM      Profile for Barry Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Barry Martin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Ron Yost
Fortunately my local family-owned mini-plex doesn't show any ads at all .. not even slides
This is one area I have spoken with the owners on. We just run previews, and have no slides. I have told them MOST theaters at least run slides for a bit of extra revenue and as a plus it gives people something to look at when they show up 20-30 minutes early for the show. Also, if we did it ourselves instead of having a big advertiser pay us to rent the screen we would be able to give a decent price for advertising to local businesses and events and thus support the community. Mix in a few pepsi trivia slides and it's a bit of extra entertainment but you are not being held "captive" such as ads that run AFTER the show's start time. Do slide shows really bug anyone? Especially when compared to PSAs, Coke and that variety of trailer ads, lobby ads, and advertising over the sound system (movie tunes, etc)?

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Emma Tomiak
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 - posted 01-01-2005 02:13 AM      Profile for Emma Tomiak   Author's Homepage   Email Emma Tomiak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
To Mike: Yes, terribly.

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David Yauch
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 - posted 01-01-2005 02:46 AM      Profile for David Yauch   Email David Yauch   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Barry I can't answer for everyone, but I can say that we have had more complaints about slides not being on screen then we've had about them being there.

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Jason Black
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Speaking of customers referring to slide presentations..

How about the customers who come out and say the movie is out of focus WHEN THE SLIDES ARE SHOWING.....

Stoopid customers.. [Smile]

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Dave Williams
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 - posted 01-01-2005 01:37 PM      Profile for Dave Williams   Author's Homepage   Email Dave Williams   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Ron Yost
I think people should be given a DISCOUNT for attending a theatre which shows such crap, not have to pay more to attend one who doesn't.

They're paying to get sold to, fer pete's sake. Nonsense, says I. (Fortunately my local family-owned mini-plex doesn't show any ads at all .. not even slides.)

And I think that we should all get free televisions, the giant flat panel plasma screens, just for watching comercial based television. [evil] I paid for my cheap ass tv, why do I have to pay to watch HBO? I mean really!!! WHY?????

As for the discount, I think the appropriate discount would be about 1 cent, considering the revenue generated vs. cost of projection. I think I will demand my penny each time I see a commercial on screen. Dammit I want my penny!!! [Mad]

As for paying to get sold to, well that is what the movie is doing isn't it? Tom Hanks sells the movie for you so you don't have to. However his paycheck is out the friggin roof so most larger commercial ventures are forced to get revenue elsewhere.

I disagree with commercials, but some cannot live without it. It may mean the difference between film guard and no film guard, and we all BETTER know the damned difference!!! [Big Grin]

I applaud those that can go without it. However, I disapplaud anyone who derides those that must show it for revenue sakes. This business is a bitch, and she hits hard! [Eek!] Cudos to all those that put in thier blood sweat and tears to make it the best experience with WHAT YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH.

Ciao mon

dave [Confused]

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Andrew McCrea
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Winnipeg's Globe Cinema has been doing dinner and a movie partnerships since it (re-)opened (the old Famous Players Portage Place) in 2002. If you buy 1 of 3 dishes at Partner's Delicassten (or however you spell it), you get a free ticket to the cinema, to any movie of your choice. They're always plugging this deal on the movie line (204) 69-GLOBE (45623).

What would customers think if the curtain closed, slide projector turned off and stage lights came up 2-5 minutes before the show, then the show started traditionally, and ended the same way, with slides showing inbetween? That way, ads aren't being shown continuously and the show is still being done the old fashioned way with big income.

I really hate how theatres with no corporate advertising (just trivia and concession stand plugs) still run the slideshow, especially a theatre here in Winnipeg with curtains. They're not making money to run easy trivia- they're spending it to produce the material, and maintain the projector.

Just my two cents.

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David Yauch
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quote: Jason Black
How about the customers who come out and say the movie is out of focus WHEN THE SLIDES ARE SHOWING.....
This is almost as bad as a projectionist whom I work with who complains about the focus EVERY time he sees a movie, even if he focused the same lens the show before. Not only that, I have to refocus every projector every time I take over a side after him. I think we need to have an intervention soon, and tell him that he needs glasses.

We have had some fun with slide projectors lately, as our slide bulb supplier went delinquent on us. In order to get the slides on screen we have to play musical slide bulbs.

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Eric Hooper
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I went to a theatre the other day (Landmark) that didn't have any slides, advertising, nothing. It felt so wierd, for a change. I was kinda bored. (After having being brainwashed by The 20wenty and other such nonsense.)

Interesting note: The theatre audience was talking and chatting before the movie started (as I was forced to have conversation with the people I went with LOL.) and right when the movie started, the audience (who was talked out by this point) was DEAD SILENT. Unlike at other theatres that run ads where people are forced to talk through the ads because they want to ignore them, but then keep talking through the movie too.

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Joe Redifer
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Mike, just put the end cue on the blue band. Don't show the theme park thing.

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Aaron Mehocic
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quote: Barry Martin
Also, if we did it ourselves instead of having a big advertiser pay us to rent the screen we would be able to give a decent price for advertising to local businesses and events and thus support the community.
Be careful in your approach on this Barry. We initially tried to sell slides all by ourselves and it was a disaster of monumental proportions. The major reason we fell flat on our face was the owner's twentysomthing daughter became personally involved as our "contact". Basically, she vetoed a customer (local 501-C3 helpline) from showing a slide of an older man laying on the floor possibly passed out and needing help. This, she claimed, was too provocative and may scare children. When the photographer (an asshole in his own right) refused to do a reshoot unless he was paid another $250, the customer balked. To many hands in the cookie jar and no communication between anybody ended the whole thing right there. Oh, and after two months of trying to sell to customer after customer, the helpline was our first bite. [Roll Eyes]

We currently use Silver Screen Advertising out of Minneapolis, MN as our "big advertiser" and we are pleased with their work. Not only do they handle the sales, but also supply our bulb needs and any breakdowns on the slide projectors.

Even for these guys, sales are pretty slim and have been for most of 2004. Last year I heard one of Silver Screen's owners tell a manger at our theatre that they have the most difficulty selling slides here in New Castle then at any of their theatres between Pittsburgh and Chicago. I'm not surprised by that since Walmart ran most of the mom-and-pap stores out of town, and those that are left are usually ran by older folks that don't understand on-screen advertising, or simply don't budget for advertising. We now have only a car dealer and crappy resturant as customers . . . the insurance agent didn't renew.

I don't have a problem with slide advertising. I just wouldn't want anybody to get caught in the snafu's I've outlined above.

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Thomas Procyk
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Christian Volpi
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Wow! Way toooo much time on your hands. We may laugh at it now but give it a few years. Most of the time the previews are better than the film, maybe the ads will be, too.

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