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Mark Lensenmayer
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Monte,

Thanks for the heads-up on the Cincinnati Train Station (Museum Center) organ. That is a beautiful rotunda and an organ would have an incredible sound in there. They have done a very good job of maintaining this wonderful facillity, adding museums and an Omnimax theatre. I'll look into going down and checking this instrument out some time.

Information on the instrument

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The grand E. M. Skinner Concert Pipe Organ is located in the Rotunda of Cincinnati Museum Center near the OMNIMAX Theater. The Rotunda has a reverberation time of approximately five seconds and has been described by Cincinnati Enquirer classical music critic Janelle Gelfand as "an ideal environment for organ."

The main organ was located through the Organ Historical Society and rescued from a church in Philadelphia. Members of the Crosley family and the Franciscan Health Care System provided the E.M. Skinner organ from the former Powel Crosley Jr. residence. Both E. M. Skinner organs were built in 1929, the year the Cincinnati Union Terminal began construction.

The organ is separated into "Divisions," with certain sets of pipes located in each and played mainly from one of the four keyboards or the pedal board. The divisions are hidden behind facades resembling ticket counters toward the back of the Rotunda. Solo, Great and Pedal divisions are located immediately to the left of the concourse, and Choir and Swell divisions immediately to the right. The yet-to-be-completed Antiphonal division will be located near the entrance to the Cincinnati History Museum. With the Antiphonal division, the organ will have over 4,000 pipes.

Cincinnati Museum Center plans to use the organ for periodic concerts and, eventually, for daily use as part of educational programs.


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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Floyd Justin Newton
Got any more?

Here is a list of theatre and other organs located around the country. Lots of photos and such......
Lots-O-Theatre Organs

Enjoy!

Mark

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Floyd Justin Newton
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Mark--

W-O-W!!

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Bruce McGee
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They got some fine looking equipment over on that-there site.

I'll be at that site alot. Thanks Mark! [thumbsup]

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Monte L Fullmer
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Mark's link is quite interesting as well - GREAT!

Heard of "pipedreams" on NPR radio?

Program is usally on Sundays on your campus radio station- if the campus radio station is an NPR affiliate.

check out this link..and turn your speakers up..

There is quite a excellent collection of organs around the world - both classical, and theatre organs in this site. With complete Realtime radio broadcasts that one can listen to through their computer.

www.pipedreams.org

..other organ related sites

www.ohscatalog.com

www.acchos.org - One has to check out the availiable CD from this site.

www.wanamakerorgan.com/index1.html

www.agohq.org

http://www.schnitger.nl/ .. on this site, one has to check out the available CD.

-Monte

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William Hooper
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Monte forgot http://www.arndtorgansupply.com/

Also http://www.atos.org/ , which manages to score hits on the "What is the worst thing about website designs?" list right off the bat with an unrelated "Click Here" on the front page, no real info on the front page, etc.

The big Skinner is nice, but for the person of truly singular taste, there is the Magnus Chord Organ

Bruce, you could get a 5 rank Wicks in the house with no problem. The console would take up as much room as a desk, & the chests would fit behind the sofa. If you've got to have it under expression, I believe Wicks still has blueprints for the case originally available for the 4-6 rank organs. I believe that they fit in 8 foot ceilings (might have to miter some pipes, though).

Those Wicks DE TO's just hang on! You keep bumping into them at churches that have acquired them somehow after they were removed from the theatres.

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote: William Hooper
The big Skinner is nice, but for the person of truly singular taste, there is the Magnus Chord Organ
Brother (LOL) ! See these things many-a-times in thrift stores... Yet, interesting for a reed organ-like a bunch of harmonicas inside.

Sorry, not into Theatre Organs, just into the classical, symphonic organs.

Okey, now we need to find a Mellotron, or Chamberlain somewhere.

-Monte

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William Hooper
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OMG Monte, look what's on eBay!
It's a Hammond Rhythm II ! It'll go right under the bottom manual of your Allen, just a couple of screws!

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Bruce McGee
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William, I have 10 foot ceilings! Woo Hoo!!!

This Wickes is the only organ from this company that I have ever seen. I was told by the church that all they did as they assembled it was replace lots of leather strips, and lots of wire. There were no bad chest magnets, etc, and the blower required new bearings. Not bad for a 30+ year delay between playings! All the years that the console was walled-up under the stage... someone thought to throw a tarp over it before it was closed up. Also, the electric power was still connected to everything at the theatre.

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Don Furr
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Bruce,
The Wicks Organ company is one of the few remaining profitable pipe organ companies left in this country. There are a "ton" of Wicks installed from coast to coast. The huge organ in Moorehouse college (Atlanta) is the largest Wick (at that time) the company had built. I'm thinking it's four manuals and about 85 ranks. Three of my 17 ranks here in the house came from a 1928 Wicks organ. BTW, Wicks Organs is owned by Wicks Aircraft Company [Razz]

Don

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Stephen Furley
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Some Briitish organ builders:

Rushworth and Dreaper

Henry Willls & Sons

Harrison & Harrison Ltd.

No doubt there are others, but these are three that I know of. The sites do have some pictures.

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote:
look what's on eBay!
It's a Hammond Rhythm II ! It'll go right under the bottom manual of your Allen, just a couple of screws!

THX ! It went on my watch list. Interesting device and interesting proce as well. - Monte

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William Hooper
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I was just clowning when I suggested the Rhythm II to you, Monte; it seemed like mismatched A&R. Not a bad match for Aaron, but I think his has a rhythm doodad in it. The Rhythm II's were pretty much sold as add-on units for Hammonds, although they could be added to any organ (or even standalone, they just needed an amp & speaker); I associate them immediately with lounge organists from the 70s ceaselessly playing instrumental versions of "Besame Mucho" & "Music To Watch Girls By" ("Ohhhh the boys watch the girls while the girls watch the boys who watch the girls go byyyyy....")

But if you got a plan with the Rhythm II & the Allen, let 'er rip!

quote: Bruce McGee

This Wickes is the only organ from this company that I have ever seen.

The theatreorgans.com page has a searchable list of orginal installations by location, manufacturer, etc.
http://barton.theatreorgans.com/s.htm
But oddly, Wicks is not one of the manufacturers on the drop down list! Huh, I can't get a listing for any theatre that had a Wicks TO originally installed, & I'm sure that the database was begun from the listing in Junchen's books. The database monster must have eaten the Wicks'es. There were many, MANY Wicks TO's installed in the 20s! Still, it's a cool, fast way to pull up info about the TO originally installed in a particular theatre.

quote: Don Furr
The Wicks Organ company is one of the few remaining profitable pipe organ companies left in this country
And they're nice guys & easy to deal with for technical information going back 80 years, or current parts:
http://organ.wicks.com/

quote: Stephen Furley
Some Briitish organ builders:
Don't forget Compton & Christie, domestic cinema organ builders. I've got to hand it to the UK & influence of Compton & Christies that their consoles always were about 500x more theatrical than US TO consoles, illuminated surrounds or not! Wurlitzers which got over there had to be made presentable & competitive by adding "jelly mold" illuminated surrounds locally. Plus, the UK TO's tended to higher unification faster than US builders (even Wurlitzer was slow on all the Tibia mutations). And Compton's cool devices like the Melotone (an electronic voice in an EP TO) & the Compton Cube (a super cool device using a sort of variable-area resonator for producing several notes from the 32' octave in a manageable space & economically.

There's a page about Comptons at
http://www.zyworld.com/IvorBuckingham/

and the Cinema Organ Society's page is at
http://www.cinema-organs.org.uk/

When one of these things came up on the lift, you know upholstery cleaning costs must have skyrocketed.

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote: William Hooper
I was just clowning when I suggested the Rhythm II to you, Monte; it seemed like mismatched A&R.
Thx, I do get gullable at times, for since I'm more into classical organs, I'm quite ignorant on the theatre aspect. Yet, it would be interesting to see if this device could hook up to what you mentioned.

Update on the Mismer-Loch organ in the covention center at Atl. City: Now the organ is completely unplayable due to lack of fundage to do a massive restore on the working parts. When the CD was issued back in 1998, that is posted in the site above, only half of the organ was playable.

-Monte

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Floyd Justin Newton
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Hey guys--

Keep 'em coming!

Can't get enough pipes!

[Smile]

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