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Author Topic: How to Score With French Women! Paul Konen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 981 From: Frisco, TX. (North of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-18-2005 10:57 AM                     I believe that she went through. The flash allows you to step frame by frame. I found it interesting that her hands went through without catching the net. It seems like she hit the back of her head on the rim on the way through.  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 02-23-2005 02:56 AM                     Leo, have you seen the game that goes with this? Knowing of your fondness for people who talk endlessly on mobile 'phones. If you pick up the cheerleader and throw her really hard to the left, and slightly upwards, she will hit the airship thing, and as it explodes it will throw her the whole length of the arena into the woman with the 'phone. Two targets met, and two iritating life forms disposed of in one go. To get the 'Dumpster shot' you have to throw her out of the window on the far right; you then hear sounds of her being savaged by a dog outside. It's like an updated version of popular entertainment for the masses; the Romans threw Christians to the lions; we can throw cheerleaders to the wild dogs. I'm not normally a video games person, but this one is really strange. My best score so far is all ten targets hit in nine shots. By the way, why is there an airship thing in a basketball arena?  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 02-23-2005 12:36 PM                     quote: Paul Konen I believe that she went through. The flash allows you to step frame by frame. The folks who put together the video can make you believe she went through without her actually risking life and limb to do it. It's really not all that difficult, relatively speaking. First, you record some reference plates of the basketball backboard. You could even go so far as to video tape objects getting tossed through the hoop. After that, remove the hoop from the backboard and have the cheerleader team do their tricks. You record a bunch of takes and use the one that seems to line up the best. The real magic happens in post production. You use some 3D animation software to digitally insert the basketball hoop. With some "rigging" work on the hoop and net you can animate it to behave just like a real net when something falls through it. I think the fact that the video is pretty low rez would help CGI trickery work even more convincingly. Granted, I don't know absolutely for sure if the video was a CGI stunt or if they really did it for real. However, for someone to do that kind of trick in real life it would take precision stunt work better than the caliber of work done be Cirque Du Soleil or at least some very extreme good luck. I can't underscore enough just how dangerous such a stunt would be for anyone to attempt.  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 02-23-2005 12:43 PM                        But the camera is moving around a lot here!  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-23-2005 03:52 PM                        The reactions of the people afterward make the whole thing look more realistic than anything. I agree the girl was a complete lunatic if the thing is indeed real.  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 02-24-2005 04:32 PM                        Yes, but that could be part of the carefully staged illusion! I still haven't figured out if she really goes through. Aren't there websites which investigate popular myths and stuff like that?  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 02-24-2005 07:57 PM                        There's a little more info about the clip over at Adrants: http://www.adrants.com/2005/02/cheerleader-slam-dunked-in-amc-pre.php A stunt based on an AMC turn-off-cell-phones policy snipe??? Snopes apparently has some discussions going about the clip but the jury still seems to be out on this.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 02-24-2005 10:29 PM                     quote: But the camera is moving around a lot here! It is very common these days for CGI effects to match perspective in hand-held style camera shots. With techniques like photogrammetry, for all we know the entire basketball court could have been digitally created. The stunt people could have been performing in front of a green screen. Back in 1993 with "Jurassic Park," I was really amazed by the CGI shot of the T-Rex chasing Jeff Goldblum. The live action plate was hand held, yet certain techniques helped drop the T-Rex into the shot and match perspective throughout. I thought it was a great visual trick, even though there is a visual flaw in it. A noticeable color shift happens when T-Rex roars and starts after Jeff Goldblum. Obviously it is the edit point starting that portion of CGI.  |  IP: Logged Mike Heenan Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1896 From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 02-25-2005 12:12 AM                     Well, whether its fake or real, at least they accomplished something, getting people to talk about it, etc.  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 02-25-2005 08:19 AM                        quote: Paul Mayer Snopes apparently has some discussions going about the clip but the jury still seems to be out on this. Where is the discussion? I couldn't find it.  |  IP: Logged

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