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Author Topic: Elite Toolbar Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 04-10-2005 07:10 PM                        I shall now attempt to rephrase the question: What are you slacks doing to get this thing on your computer in the first place?  |  IP: Logged Mark Lensenmayer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1605 From: Upper Arlington, OH Registered: Sep 1999 posted 04-10-2005 08:15 PM                     I really can't say where the Elite toolbar comes from. I did the repair in mid-February, and it had only been around a few weeks. The machine was not from my lab, so I can't say where it came from. A quick internet search was also unclear about its source. I think it is likely installed by P2P programs that claim to get free music, or a game program. High school students like the ones I work with would likely be attracted to something like that.  |  IP: Logged Scott D. Neff Theatre Dork Posts: 919 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Oct 1999 posted 04-11-2005 12:52 AM                        I didn't get it. A friend of mine did... probably through Limewire.  |  IP: Logged Jason M Miller Master Film Handler Posts: 284 From: Kalamazoo, Michigan, USA Registered: Jul 2004 posted 04-12-2005 10:44 PM                     quote: Bobby Henderson This is also another argument for using an app like Norton Ghost. It creates a mirrored backup of your boot disc (or the contents of the entire machine). You can kill off spyware effectively without having to reinstall all your applications from scratch. DO NOT DO THIS if you have a virus or spyware installed, all GHOST does is create an image of all files, including the infected ones.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 04-12-2005 11:38 PM                  I agree Jason, the "Ghost" sucks! The best way I found to get rid of those pesky pests is to go to Symantec (Norton's) website and follow their instructions. It is important to do the deletions from the "safe" mode and temporarily turn off "Restore"...  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 04-13-2005 12:37 PM                     It goes without saying apps like Ghost are useless if you're not also using anti-virus and anti-spyware applications. However, lots of IT people swear by Ghost. It can save you a hell of a lot of time if you make regular backups of your boot disc. There's a lot of malware and spyware that will give you no choice but to format your hard disc to get rid of it. I had to do that to a friend's computer when he got nailed with the Cool Web Search browser hijack. Nothing would get rid of it. Then he had to spend hours reinstalling all his applications. Graphics people can kill a bunch of time just having to reinstall the fonts they use. Ghost will make short work of all that.  |  IP: Logged Dean Kollet Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 591 From: Florida State University Registered: Jul 2003 posted 04-13-2005 12:51 PM                     I tell ya what, just b/c I'm a nice guy and I'm feeling in the nice mood, I'll fix it for free. Just get me a remote desktop connection with your friend, and I'll get rid of it  |  IP: Logged Dominic Espinosa Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1172 From: California, U.S.A. Registered: Jan 2004 posted 04-13-2005 01:39 PM                     Okay, here's the dealio. IE as most M$ products are, is wildly insecure and exploitable. The best thing you can do (if you've got a legit copy of Windows) is to stay updated via MS Update. However, this will not fix al the problems you experience. The best thing you can do is to completely remove IE (On certain installations, such as the old Windows 9x family) you simply cannot remove IE. Post lawsuit copies however allow you to uninstall it. What oh what will I use to browse? Netscape, Firefox, Mozilla, whatever you want! They're all virtually the same. Some people also like Opera. I'm presonally using Netscape Beta 9 and it works SO much better than IE. Finally, the MS Spyware Beta app is actually good. It does what it's intended, which it should since MS made the damn os vulnerable anyway, they ought to know how to fix it. And if you're really fanatical, the best thing you can do is run Linux. Either on your router PC or on your workstation. I can't run Linux on some of mine because my girlfriend isn't Linux friendly and I still need some software that relies on Windows. However the security and flexability of a Linux router is great. Some full-funcational routers such as those by Netopia and Linksys allow blacklist features of sorts which are useful if a repeat offender is attacking your system. You can "blacklist" his entire network if you want. I do this with spammers all the time. And a final argument for the "screw it and reload". What Brad does is a good idea. Depending on how heavily you use your computer you should reformat and reload every 6-12 months, maybe longer if you don't use it that much. There are imaging programs of all kinds. I can't remember which is the best but I do think Syquest makes one that's good. Look over at maximumpcmag.com and there should be some listed or hit the geek sites. The idea here is to make an image of everything on your hard disk that you install, including drivers with updates and patches, apps, whatever. Then if the shit hits the fan you can reload from this image of a pristine, fully loaded install. Moreover, the frequent reformat does several things: 1.) it keeps your system free of clutter 2.) it forces you to organize your important files 3.) it just feels good.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-13-2005 01:55 PM                     Wanna' REALLY stop viruses & spyware in their tracks? (I mean, aside from tossing out that piece of Microsoft crap on your desk and getting another computer.) Try Deep Freeze It makes a mirror backup of your (presumably clean) computer's configuration and reverts back to that image every time you restart the computer. To top it all off, it can be set to reboot the computer after one hour of no user activity. It may be a PITA for the average user but it's a Godsend for computers in the college/institutional environment. People can go downloading any kind of virus, malware, P2P trojans or what have you to their heart's content but, one hour later, it's all wiped out! When the system is set up with Deep Freeze, it can be given a "Thaw Space" in which saved files are kept but are not deleted every hour. This allows users to save their documents long enough to print them out and/or take them home on a floppy, thumb drive or network them home. There are a lot of situations where you probably wouldn't want to use it but on unattended or public machines, you should look into it.  |  IP: Logged

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