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Author Topic: Retired projectionist the "End of an era." -> OT to Non-theatrical exhibition Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-18-2005 10:05 PM                     Hummmmm, I don't think so..... We still have one Union Operator that still projects full time here in SLC. There is no union left but the theatre has always retained him at his full union wage. He is worth every penny too . Mark  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 04-19-2005 04:35 AM                        Seems this misnomer persists and persists. Just because a film is exhibited without charging any admittance fee does not impact whether or not infringement has occurred. If you haven't obtained an exhibition license, whether or not you charge admission matters not one iota. It's like if someone steals your car, invites all his buddies to go for on a joy ride, and then expects you not to press charges because he let them ride for free! The copyright owner's right to control the exhibition of his work exists regardless of whether you get paid for your infringement violation or not. He doen't relinquish it because you don't charge any admission. It is still infringement, and of all of them, Disney especially won't care it if is an 80yr old nun in an orphanage of starving kids --they'll sic the FBI dogs on her butt as fast as they will on a theatre owner trying to sneak in unreported shows to pocket extra cash. The fines may differ in the sentencing phase, but the infringement violation is not mitigated. Non-profits are notorious for being oblivious about how lame the "but we didn't charge any money, Mr. FBI man" defense is. Sometimes I really believe that their apparant ignorance is just a ruse to get away with what they know is patently illegal. Either they think that if they ever get caught, this excuse will somehow save them, or they are just self-delusional and fooling themselves. Like all those films they show (in their ENTIRETY) in classrooms all over the country by teachers who never get tired of tout themselves as how much smarter they are than everyone else. Hmmmm....evidently they've never experienced that giant Disney mouse morphing into a giant rat, gnawing off its pound of flesh for copyright infringment of their product.  |  IP: Logged Rick Raskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1100 From: Manassas Virginia Registered: Jan 2003 posted 04-19-2005 12:48 PM                     Here in Manassas they have free outdoor movies during the Summer. The media is DVD and the rental agreement allows public exhibition. The kicker is they cannot mention the film's title in any advertising, only a vague plot description and the year of release. If one were to exhibit PD films from their own collection they may also be in violation because, although the title may be in the public domain, music elements in the film may still be copyright protected.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 04-20-2005 06:04 PM                     I know of a few collectors (including me) that know of the "private use" rules. We may take our films to the theatre that we work at watch them WAY after hours by ourselves and enjoy seeing these on the big screen, but will never tell anyone what we have done. Or, to play it real safe, is to build our own "home theatres" like the ones in the picture section of FT. .... like the guy with those pair of modified Norelco AA-2's. Now, that is some setup! -Monte  |  IP: Logged Jim Ziegler Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 753 From: West Hollywood, CA Registered: Jul 99 posted 04-20-2005 06:15 PM                     If you own say a DVD of a film, as well as a print, shouldn't the right to view it that you got from the DVD purchase also allow you to watch the print privately?  |  IP: Logged Rick Raskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1100 From: Manassas Virginia Registered: Jan 2003 posted 04-21-2005 04:52 PM                     I don't think anyone cares what you do privately. Its the unlicensed public exhibition of a title that get the copyright holders uptight.  |  IP: Logged

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