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David Stambaugh
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John, we expect a full report from you on Cinemark's new DLP setup since that's your hometown. [Big Grin]

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Bobby Henderson
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Yep, I must agree with Brad, that DLP "logo" or whatever you want to call it is pretty damned lame. Whoever put it together just made a couple rectangles, threw Helvetica in there (and then distorted the hell out of it like any amateur is prone to do), and then put the whole thing into an envelope filter. Pretty much bullshit design.

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Pravin Ratnam
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So do screens at places like the arclite in LA. Do you think they have DLP screens with the new 2K chips or the old lower res ones? I am advising some friends in LA to make sure to check the age of the installation. What is a good rule of thumb for the age to guess if the installed projector is the higher res one - 6months old? within the last year?

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David Stambaugh
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Is that Cinemark installation in Rochester actually DLP? Or could it possibly be, oh, I don't know - - D-ILA? [beer]

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Dave Ganoe
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2 D Cinema presentations of EP3 at R/C Oceanwalk Movies 10 in Daytona Beach FL. And also 2 35mm prints as well.

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Bobby Henderson
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Installation age could be misleading. A smaller market theater with a recent DLP install could really be using a hand-me-down system from a larger theater.

I only raise this point since many theater circuits have installed used digital sound processors in theaters in smaller cities and towns. They're not all brand new equipment.

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Michael Coate
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Updated D-Cinema List For "Episode III." New entries in bold. Some of the known 2K showings are noted.

quote:

UNITED STATES

ALABAMA
Hoover: Rave Patton Creek 15 (2K)

ARIZONA
Peoria: Harkins Arrowhead Cinemas 18

ARKANSAS
Rogers: Malco Towne Cinema 12

CALIFORNIA
Carlsbad: UltraStar La Costa 6
Chula Vista: UltraStar Chula Vista 10
Daly City: Century 20
El Centro: UltraStar Imperial Valley 14
Emeryville: AMC Bay Street 16
Glendale: Mann Glendale Marketplace 4
Irvine: Regal Irvine Spectrum 21
Long Beach: Regal Long Beach Stadium 26 (2K)
Los Angeles (Baldwin Hills): Loews Cineplex/Magic Johnson Crenshaw Plaza
Los Angeles (Hollywood): Pacific ArcLight Hollywood (2K)
Los Angeles (Hollywood): Pacific The Grove Stadium 14
Los Angeles (Sherman Oaks): Pacific Galleria Stadium 16
Los Angeles (Universal City): Loews Cineplex Universal Studios
Los Angeles (Westwood Village): Mann Village
Poway: UltraStar Poway Creekside Plaza 10
San Diego (Del Mar): UltraStar Del Mar Highlands 8
San Diego (Mira Mesa): Regal Mira Mesa Stadium 18
San Diego (Mission Valley): AMC Mission Valley 20
San Francisco: Loews Cineplex Metreon
San Jose: Century 22 (2K)
Santa Monica: AMC Santa Monica 7

COLORADO
Denver: UA Denver Pavillions Stadium 15

CONECTICUT
Hartford: Crown Palace 17
Trumbull: Crown Marquis 16

FLORIDA
Daytona Beach: R/C Ocean Walk Movies
Lake Buena Vista: AMC Pleasure Island 24
Melbourne: Cinema World 16
Pinellas Park: R-C Movies 16 at Parkside Mall

IDAHO
Meridian: Hallett Majestic (2K)

ILLINOIS
Chicago: AMC River East 21
Elk Grove: Classic Elk Grove (2K)
Schaumburg: Loews Cineplex Woodfield
Skokie: Crown Village Crossing 18

KANSAS
Wichita: Dickinson Northrock 14

MARYLAND
Annapolis: Crown Annapolis Mall

MASSACHUSETTS
Boston: Loews Cineplex Boston Common
Randolph: National Amusements Showcase Randolph 16

MICHIGAN
Birch Run: Cinema Hollywood
Novi: Emagine Novi 18
Southfield: Star Southfield 20

MINNESOTA
Eden Prairie: AMC Eden Prairie Mall 18

NEVADA
Las Vegas: Century 16 Santa Fe Station
Las Vegas: Orleans 18

NEW JERSEY
Elizabeth: Loews Cineplex Jersey Gardens

NEW YORK
New York (Brooklyn): Pavilion (2K)
New York (Manhattan): AMC Empire 25
New York (Manhattan): Clearview Ziegfeld (2K)
New York (Manhattan): Loews 34th Street
New York (Manhattan): Loews Kips Bay
New York (Manhattan): Loews Lincoln Square 12
New York (Manhattan): Regal Union Square Stadium 14
Rochester: Cinemark Tinseltown USA (2K)

OHIO
Springdale: National Amusements Springdale 18 Cinema de Lux
Valley View: Cinemark Cinemark at Valley View (2K)

PENNSYLVANIA
Hanover: R/C Hanover Movies 16

SOUTH CAROLINA
Greenville: Greenville Camelot

TENNESSEE
Memphis: Malco Cordova
Memphis: Malco Paradiso

TEXAS
Austin: Galaxy Highland 10
Plano: Cinemark Cinemark at Legacy (2K)

VIRGINIA
Merrifield: National Amusements Lee Highway Multiplex

WASHINGTON
Monroe: Galaxy Galaxy 12
Yakima Valley: Hallett Grand Cinemas Yakima Valley (2K)

CANADA

ONTARIO
Cambridge: Galaxy Cambridge Galaxy
Oakville: AMC Winston Churchill 24
Waterloo: Galaxy 10 at Conestoga Mall (2K)
Woodbridge: Famous Players Colossus Woodbridge

QUEBEC
Montreal: Famous Players Paramount Montreal

The web version of this list will be updated later this week and it will include additional information including international engagements and an attempt to identify the 2K showings.

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Dan Harris
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To the international list, you can add the Odeon in Bath for the UK. 2k presentation - Christie CP2000 with Dolby Show Store based system.

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Michael Coate
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OK...some international D-Cinema engagements...

quote:

INTERNATIONAL

AUSTRIA (Opens May 18 -- "Star Wars Episode III Die Rache Der Sith")
Vienna: UCI Kinowelt Millennium City

BELGIUM (May 18 -- "Star Wars Episode III La Revanche Des Sith")
Antwerp: Metropolis Antwerpen (2K)
Braine L'Alleud: Kinepolis Imagibraine
Brussels: Kinepolis Brussels (2K
Gent: Kinepolis Gent (2K)
Hasselt: Kinepolis Hasselt
Kortrijk: Kinepolis Kortrijk (2K)
Leuven: Kinepolis Leuven
Liege: Kinepolis Liege
Liege: Palace Liege
Mechelen: Utopia Utopolis Mechelen (2K)
Turnhout: Utopia Utopolis Turnhout (2K)

BRAZIL (May 19 -- "Star Wars Episodio III A Vinganca Dos Sith")
Sao Paulo

DENMARK (May 18 -- "Star Wars Episode III Fyrsternes Haevn")
Aarhus: Nordisk Bio City Arhus (2K)
Copenhagen: Nordisk Imperial (2K)
Copenhagen: Palads Kobenhavn

FRANCE (May 18 -- "Star Wars Episode III La Revanche Des Sith")
Grenoble: Grenoble Nef Chavant
Lomme: Kinepolis Lomme (2K)
Paris: Europalaces Gaumont Marignon (2K)

GERMANY (May 18 -- "Star Wars Episode III Die Rache Der Sith")
Berlin: UCI Kinowelt Zoo Palast
Dresden: UFA Kristallpalast Dresden
Dusseldorf: UCI Kinowelt Dusseldorf

HUNGARY (May 19 -- "Star Wars III. Resz A Sith-Ek Bosszuja")
Budapest: Palace MOM Park

ITALY (May 20 -- "Star Wars Episodio III La Vendetta Dei Sith")
Milan: Arcadia (2K)
Rome

JAPAN (July 9)
TBD

MEXICO (May 19 -- "Star Wars Episodio III La Venganza De Los Sith")
San Lucas Tepetlacalco: Cinemex Mundo 'E'

NETHERLANDS (May 19)
Almere: Utopia Utopolis (2K)
Ede: CineMec
Enschede: Alhambra

NORWAY (May 19 -- "Star Wars Episode III Sithene Tar Hevn")
Bergen: Bergen Kino
Trondheim: Trondheim Kino

PORTUGAL (May 19 -- "Star Wars Episodio III A Vinganca Dos Sith")
Lisbon: Cinemas Millennium (2K)

SINGAPORE (May 19)
Eng Wah Jubilee (2K)
Eng Wah Suntec (2K)
Eng Wah Toa Payoh (2K)
Eng Wah West Mall (2K)

SPAIN (May 19 -- "Star Wars Episodio III La Venganza De Los Sith")
Paterna: Kinepolis Valencia
Pozuelo: Kinepolis Madrid
Pulianas: Kinepolis Granada

TAIWAN (May 21)
Taipei: Ambassador Theatre Breeze Center

UNITED KINGDOM (May 19)
Bath: Odeon Kingsmead Leisure Centre (2K)
London: Odeon Leicester Square (2K)
Manchester: UCI The Filmworks Manchester
Swindon: Cine UK Greenbridge

Post edited to add additional information.

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Michael Schaffer
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Apparently they also play the movie in DLP in the "Kristallpalast" in Dresden.Or so I read on the German projectionists' forum.

We are actually going to present it on 2 screens in El Centro in digital.

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Anslem Rayburn
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That new Ultra Star in El Centro is only about an hour from me here in Yuma, Arizona. I have a group of 20 or so friends that are going there tonight to catch Star Wars, as it is only showing at the new Harkins in Yuma (which doesn't have Digital Cinema).

Why doesn't Ultra Star advertise on their site that the El Centro location is Digital? We called them, and were told by the person that answered their phone it was Digital, but were also told that all 14 screens there were digital and they didn't even run film! I know that can't be right, so until I saw you confirm it was 2 copies in digital, I had my doubts that they even had a digital setup at all.

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Michael Schaffer
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I am not surprised. A surprisingly small number of people has even the slightest clue what digital actually means, and they can never keep digital sound and projection apart. Most of the employess which visited the booth during and after the installation were really surprised to see the big machines because they thought "you guys were runnig DVDs up here" [Roll Eyes]

But thanks for letting me know. I will certainly talk to the GM to make sure he is aware of the fact that the people answering the phone need to have some basic knowledge at least of what they are talking about. Since it is a very new location, that can be excused to a certain degree at this time.

But I can give you reliable first-hand information that we are indeed running 2k NEC digital projectors (with uncompressed 6-channel sound and EX decoding for the surround channels) in auditoriums #4 and #5. I took part in the installation myself, so that is the naked truth.

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John Pytlak
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quote:
John, we expect a full report from you on Cinemark's new DLP setup since that's your hometown. [Big Grin]


Kodak Digital Cinema

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May 19, 2005

Kodak is 'the force' behind digital movie projection

Area gets first look with 'Sith' at Tinseltown

Ben Rand
Staff writer

The final episode of the epic Star Wars saga is helping to launch a new era in technology for both Eastman Kodak Co. and local moviegoers.

Fans of the historic series of films will be able to watch Episode III: Revenge of the Sith in what's believed to be the region's first screen to use state-of-the-art digital imaging cinema technology. And Kodak know-how will help make it happen.

One of the five screens showing the new movie at Cinemark Tinseltown theaters in Gates will be using a networked digital movie projection system. The system will project the movie from a computer hard drive rather than off rolls of film, the industry's dominant technology for more than a century. It was installed here as a test project between Kodak and theater owner Cinemark USA.

The projector itself is not made by Kodak, but the rest of the system's components have a distinct local flavor. The heart of the system is the Kodak CineServer, which provides the link between projectors and the digitally recorded feature film. The CineServer essentially "plays" the film at the scheduled time.

Kodak also fulfilled two other very important roles. The company provided a cinema-specific operating system for managing digital equipment and recording data and helped format the film to be played on digital screens across the country.

Tinseltown was chosen for the installation as part of a test project between Kodak and Cinemark, which operates more than 3,300 screens worldwide. Kodak wanted an installation relatively close to researchers who helped build the system, the bulk of whom work in its research and development laboratories in Rochester.

The company and Tinseltown officials demonstrated the projection system for the news media Wednesday — using only movie trailers, not the actual Star Wars film.

"It's exciting. When I first started in this, I had a goal for Kodak to be part of the first digital movie projection in Rochester. We're very excited about getting there," said Bill Orfitelli, commercialization manager for Kodak's digital cinema business.

The installation represents an important milestone for Kodak in its shift from film to digital technology.

The company is working to offset expected future declines in sales of movie film with a range of services, software and other products.

That portfolio is intended to help the movie industry apply digital imaging across its spectrum — from taping action on the set, to adding music and special effects, to transmitting films to the big screen.

Though the use of Kodak technology for major releases such as the Star Wars film is new, Kodak's involvement in digital cinema is not.

The company has been working with theaters over the past two years to use digital projectors and related software and networking technology for showing advertising and other content before the movie.

Kodak is installing about 100 new pre-show digital imaging systems a day, said Stephen C. Cataldi, beta program manager and a 20-year Kodak veteran.

Cataldi says the technology development was not the hardest part of developing the system. The movie industry is made up of a series of partnerships that must be carefully navigated. "Each theater is different," Cataldi said.

Orfitelli said the new installations represent the outcome of more than three years of work. The company is also conducting tests in theaters in Illinois, India and China.

Tinseltown is the fourth theater to receive digital movie equipment, said Terrell Faulk, vice president of communications and marketing for Cinemark. She said a system-wide rollout of digital equipment is probably several years away, while the industry continues working out technical and business issues.

"A lot of questions have to be answered. This is going to happen when it's going to happen," she said.

Kodak believes it will play a key role in that rollout, though it is not likely to manufacture its own digital cinema projector. The company will seek to apply a century of experience in imaging and color science, said Richard Sehlin, chief technical officer in Kodak's entertainment imaging unit. "The real key is the management of color," he said.

Moviegoers wanting to specifically see the digital version can get showtimes from Tinseltown by calling (585) 247-2180 or going to www.cinemark.com.

http://www.kodak.com/go/dcinema

BRAND@DemocratandChronicle.com



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Scott Norwood
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Does the Kodak system offer higher image and sound quality than the other 2k systems (due to less compression, etc.)? Or do its advantages lie primarily in reliabilty and ease of management?

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John Pytlak
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quote: Scott Norwood
Does the Kodak system offer higher image and sound quality than the other 2k systems (due to less compression, etc.)? Or do its advantages lie primarily in reliabilty and ease of management?
For now, reliability and ease of management, which were often shortcomings of previous components and operating systems (e.g., "digital hiccups"). Kodak's expertise in image science, color management, watermarking, etc. also could be incorporated into future systems, compatible with the standards being developed by the SMPTE. Kodak is a full-service provider, from original cinematography, to post production and mastering, to display, and services.

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