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Leo Enticknap
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 - posted 05-31-2005 04:52 PM      Profile for Leo Enticknap   Author's Homepage   Email Leo Enticknap   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The Outlook Web Access facility for getting at my work e-mail from off base will only work with full functionality from IE, too (about 80% of the functions aren't there if you access it through a non-MS browser). That and Windows Update are the only reasons I have IE installed on my home PC and laptop at all.

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Martin Brooks
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quote: Bobby Henderson
A friend of mine said I should run a side business rescuing infected PCs, but I laughed at the suggestion. If a person can't even be bothered to download a free anti-virus application or download free security updates, what makes anyone think they'll be willing to pay a respectable fee to get their computer back up and running? I've seen people running computers infected with spyware or trojans and they just live with it! It's no wonder identity theft and other crimes are such a "growth industry."
My son-in-law does this (fix infected PCs) as part of his business. I don't blame consumers for not paying attention to this. Most consumers don't understand the difference between the hard disk and memory. My mother still doesn't understand the difference between booting the PC and launching an application. People think that it's not going to happen to them, but what it does, they're usually desperate to get it fixed. Frequently, if the PC is more than a few years old, they toss it and start over.

quote: Bobby Henderson
What really staggers me is how so many people rig up wireless routers without activating any of the security features. I have a friend in Edmond, OK who says he doesn't need a WiFi router. He just fires up his notebook and jumps on a neighbor's wide open connection. It's almost as good as getting free cable.
Yep. A few months back, I had to make a week-long trip to Florida and I didn’t have a working laptop. I told my daughter that if she leant me her Power Book, I’d purchase a Wi-Fi card for it. So I installed the card and thought I would have to take a run over to a local chain bookstore to test out the WiFi. But as soon as I launched the WiFi app, I found three open networks I could sign on to!! Must be people in other apartments in my building with a wireless router and no security. I still can’t figure out who they are, but it worked great.

quote: Bobby Henderson

As elected representatives, I think they should know something about the topic -or be replaced by others with more knowledge. This stuff is just too important to our business and daily lives to allow the ignorant complacency to continue.

Is that a joke? Most of our congresspeople do not read the bills that they vote for, especially if the bill is hundreds of pages. That’s how we get half of the dumb bills we get, including bills relating to national security – no one knows what’s buried in those bills, except for the lobbyists that push them.

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Leo Enticknap
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quote: Martin Brooks
I don't blame consumers for not paying attention to this. Most consumers don't understand the difference between the hard disk and memory. My mother still doesn't understand the difference between booting the PC and launching an application. People think that it's not going to happen to them, but what it does, they're usually desperate to get it fixed.
The counterargument to that would be to ask if you'd blame a car owner for not understanding that if he drives too fast round a tight bend on a wet day, he'll skid off the road and likely cause quite a bit of damage?

Deciding how much responsibility to put on the user of a PC and the extent to which you try to make software moronproof is a tough one. Within a given budget for software development, the more you invest in moronproofing, the less functionality and versatility you'll be able to offer more advanced users: but at the same time, leaving PCs open to becoming unreliable, leaking personal data or becoming a spam zombie isn't good either. Also, you'll actually discourage people from developing the skills which could keep them safe from this sort of stuff in future - just as the invention of synchromesh gearboxes, ABS and airbags is accused by some of lowering the standard of driving.

In fact, one writer in a Sunday newspaper recently suggested that if airbags in cars were replaced with razor-sharp spikes which extended at the moment of impact, the roads would become a lot safer, almost overnight - because people would know what the consequences would be of careless driving. By the same token, if computers were sold with no firewall or antivirus software at all and a big warning on the box which said that if users didn't take steps to protect themselves, these would be the likely consequences, then the population might start getting a lot more IT literate.

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Dave Williams
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 - posted 06-01-2005 08:34 PM      Profile for Dave Williams   Author's Homepage   Email Dave Williams   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
DOS still rules!

I myself am a DOS baby. Grew up on it, and yes even where I work now it is the primary system. In fact, our graphical user interfaces, all windows based, most people hate them and wont use them.

Ciao

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