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Topic: Could you pass the UK citizenship test?
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Gunnar Johansson
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From: Gothenburg, Sweden
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 06-17-2005 02:45 AM
I agree with Leo on the relevance on this test, even though I haven´t read the manual. It also seemed to me that the questions actually weren´t relevant questions about Britain, but about the text. The test was if you´ve read the text, not if you´re "apt" to be a citizen... If it wasn´t on the BBC website, and april 1st wasn´t a while ago, it´d almost seem like a joke.
There´s some discussion in Sweden as well about having a test to let people get citizenship, to cover basics in how the system works, and apparently a language part.
As for the 112 it´s a EU (EC) harmonizing thing. Sweden used to have 90 000 (or as many zeros as needed...) but it got changed like 10 years ago to 112, because everyone else in Europe also changed, so you wouldn´t have to worry about that in the free mobile Europe. Now we have both numbers, but they´re phasing out the old one, until they notice that noone calls it anymore. Actually it would make sense to have 911 as well, seeing how americanized we are (it comes and goes, it used to be Germany, France and Britain in that order for a hundred years each or so) and I remember watching "Rescue 911" with Bill Shatner, "the show dedicated to the men and women..." when I was a kid, but given a moment to think about it I´d dial 112.
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Michael Schaffer
"Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?"

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From: Boston, MA
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 06-17-2005 04:38 AM
quote: Leo Enticknap The cultural stuff can come later, and furthermore I don't think you really need to test people on that: all the immigrants I know are very keen to take that on board. I would be if I were even to live in another country temporarily, let alone want to become a citizen of one.
I too believe that "cultural" tests are nonsense, especially when a lot of the "natives" wouldn't be able to answer most questions either. But I doubt very much that what you said about immigrants can be said to be generally true. I myself met a lot of immigrants, mostly from Muslim and Hindu countries, in England who couldn't form a sentence in English if their life depended on it. Same about a lot of Mexicans here. Not only do many of them not speak much if any English at all, they also make it very clear that they don't give a shit about learning it and being able to communicate. Same in Germany with a lot of immigrants, again mostly from Muslim and Hindu countries, who often tend to disintegrate themselves very aggressively. Don't get me wrong - I don't expect them to walk around in Lederhosen (few Germans do that anyway), just like I don't run around in a cowboy hat (few Californians do that anyway). Bringing elements of their own culture into the guest country is an important part of what immigrants are about. The "multicultural" society. I found it quite strange that when I came to the USA two years ago, me and my company were required to hand in tons of paperwork to prove my professional skills - but I didn't have to take an English test. Well, English is not the official language of the US in a legal sense. But it is the de facto official language, and you can not function here in any skilled profession if you don't know it.
BTW - in Germany, police is 110 and fire dept./medical emergencies is 112. If in doubt, you can call either number, and they will take care of the problem.
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