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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 07-03-2005 10:18 AM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Actually, setting up suspected employees, manager and even theatres is older than I've been in the business.

One manager was set up on their conessions by pre-padding their cup stock to see if they note the overage on the cup delivery...they did not...they sold the cups and pocketed the money...and were fired over it.

Tills have also been "set up" to catch a suspected theif.

Wallets with money have even been left in theatres to see if employees would take it.

Mind you, this was back some years ago and in a "family" run chain where theivery was just about the worst thing you could do.

The difference I see here is that the "set ups" were not done by a rouge manager or assistant...they were often done at the area or home-office level and known by several operational supervisors. They also were not random...generally something had to be fishy first.

One thing I also learned back then...the doors to the front of a theatre act as if they are "one-way"...supervisors could look in but the employees and even managers never seemed to be able to look out...we could supervise just about any theatre back then...right from the parking lot without video cameras. If you wanted to see how a theatre was operating...just look.

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Tim Reed
Better Projection Pays

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From: Northampton, PA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 07-03-2005 03:18 PM      Profile for Tim Reed   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That's right. The great old-time company I started with in the 70s would pad a suspect cashier's bank. This practice indeed goes way back.

Also, it was forbidden for a cashier to count money in the box.

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Scott Norwood
Film God

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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 07-04-2005 07:49 AM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Isn't the cashier supposed to count the amount of change in the drawer before beginning to sell tickets? It would seem like a reasonable thing to do, in any case.

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Wolff King Morrow
Master Film Handler

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From: Denton, TX, USA
Registered: Feb 2004


 - posted 07-04-2005 11:33 AM      Profile for Wolff King Morrow   Author's Homepage   Email Wolff King Morrow   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Thomas Dieter
The owner wanted me to take a pay cut by over a 1$ an hour, and no medical or dental insurance. I said, nope, sorry.

Thomas, you actually get medical and dental? I envy you!

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Franklin Armstrong
Expert Film Handler

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From: Orlando, FL, USA
Registered: Sep 2002


 - posted 07-04-2005 12:20 PM      Profile for Franklin Armstrong   Email Franklin Armstrong   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
the drawer was even at the start of the day.

The owner put money in the drawer to see what I would do.( I was setup) Can i do anything since i didn't steal the money??

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Alexander Smith
Expert Film Handler

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From: Walney Island, Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria.
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted 07-04-2005 12:22 PM      Profile for Alexander Smith   Email Alexander Smith   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
This whole idea of "setting up" cashiers leaves a
particularly sour after-taste for me. Too many
managers think they are beyond scrutiny.

I think the most honest way to catch someone "with
their hand in the drawer" would be to rely on CCTV
and making sure the suspect is never alone on the
box office or kiosk e.t.c.

Alex.

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Thomas Dieter
Expert Film Handler

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From: Yakima, WA
Registered: Jun 2004


 - posted 07-04-2005 02:24 PM      Profile for Thomas Dieter   Email Thomas Dieter   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yes Wolff, I get medical and dental from my theatre. In fact upon being hired now, everyone, including floor personnel get medical and dental if they want it. If the decline the insurance upon hire, then they have to wait until the next enrollment period witch is June or July of every year.

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Franklin Armstrong
Expert Film Handler

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From: Orlando, FL, USA
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 - posted 07-04-2005 04:55 PM      Profile for Franklin Armstrong   Email Franklin Armstrong   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Please remember everyone it was not a cashier who was setup by the owner but me as a manager was setup by the owner.

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Jeremy Fuentes
Mmmm, Dr. Pepper!

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From: Corpus Christi, TX United States
Registered: Jan 2004


 - posted 07-04-2005 05:47 PM      Profile for Jeremy Fuentes   Email Jeremy Fuentes   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So did the owner do it just because he felt like setting someone up that day, or was there are a reason for his suspicion? Nothing personal against you, just wondering. If the money was never actually pocketed, then I personally dont see a reason to fire you. Just a reason to re-train you so you dont make that mistake again. All this is me assuming I can trust you not to do that again, and that you werent planning on pocketing the money later.

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Carl Martin
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Oakland, CA, USA
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 - posted 07-05-2005 03:15 AM      Profile for Carl Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Carl Martin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
you should go work at thomas's theater! medical and dental? damn!!

carl

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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From: Denver, Colorado
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 - posted 07-05-2005 03:19 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
UA gives medical and all that jazz. At least they did when I was there. They had a TON of benefits! Of course, I don't believe in going to the doctor.

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Phil Hill
I love my cootie bug

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From: Hollywood, CA USA
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 07-05-2005 03:23 AM      Profile for Phil Hill   Email Phil Hill       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Joe Redifer
Of course, I don't believe in going to the doctor.

What do you do for your STDs?

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Stephen Furley
Film God

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From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England
Registered: May 2002


 - posted 07-05-2005 06:35 AM      Profile for Stephen Furley   Email Stephen Furley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Subscriber Trunk Dialing; what's that got to do with it? [Smile]

Am I the only one old enough to remember when STD had another meaning?

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William T. Parr
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Cedar Park, TX
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 07-05-2005 08:06 AM      Profile for William T. Parr   Email William T. Parr   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Phil Hill
What do you do for your STDs?
Are you still taking the square needle in the left nut? [Eek!] [thumbsup] [beer]

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Bill Enos
Film God

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From: Richmond, Virginia, USA
Registered: Apr 2000


 - posted 07-05-2005 06:35 PM      Profile for Bill Enos   Email Bill Enos   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Here are two too stupid to need to be set up. A few years ago the owner noticed on one of his rare visits during operating hours that the box office report noted 86 tickets sold for the early show and he counted slightly more than 200 people in the auditorium. He told the box guy and the doorman that he would be watching. The next time these two worked together he was across the street watching from a second floorwindow using binoculars, he had the window up and waved to the doorman who waved back. They passed back more than 60 tickets while they knew he was watching. Fired on the spot.

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