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Author Topic: Whats your favorite Seinfeld episode? Hillary Charles Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 748 From: York, PA, USA Registered: Feb 2001 posted 10-21-2005 06:44 AM                     Thanks Tim! Next weekend will be our first anniversary already! This time last year, I was busy making chocolate Oscar statues as favors for the guests. It was so hectic, I got out of some routine habits, like this place. Hopefully, you'll be in the area again before too long. I look forward to it. The screening room isn't as impressive as Brad's, but it works for us. The rest of the place is practically a museum of antique televisions and radios. Back on topic--ever notice that in various episodes, Jerry, George and Elaine all slam the receiver against a pay phone like Poe Pesci in JFK?  |  IP: Logged Will Kutler Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1506 From: Tucson, AZ, USA Registered: Feb 2001 posted 10-25-2005 01:36 AM                     Time for my reply... Most of you already know that I am Jewish, and as a Jew I cannot stand Seinfeld... Seinfeld's Jewish "characters" are fodder for anti-Semitism...the characters being self-centered back-stabbers and follow many anti-Semetic stereotypes! Am I being oversensitive? No! Basically, I come from a middle class blue-collar family, and my folks busted their asses for what they had. But growing up, many children of very wealthy families were my peers. And they were as obnixious as Seinfeld...I could not stand being around them.... Cheers K  |  IP: Logged Nick Scott Expert Film Handler Posts: 133 From: nsw austrailia Registered: Nov 2004 posted 11-05-2005 03:47 AM                        All of the episodes are absolute gold. My favorite is the one where kramer and newman start a rickshaw buisness pure classic.  |  IP: Logged Adam Heath Film Handler Posts: 20 From: Rock Island, IL Registered: Dec 2004 posted 11-05-2005 10:12 PM                     they are all awesome, master of domain and the spit episodes are my favorites  |  IP: Logged Mike Spaeth Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1129 From: Marietta, GA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 11-05-2005 11:47 PM                        Isn't Jerry Seinfeld Jewish?  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 11-06-2005 12:20 AM                        I guess I should be offended and insulted by a tall skinny doofus white guy like Kramer.  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 11-06-2005 03:58 AM                        Jerry is Jewish, but I always thought George is supposed to be Italian American, and Kramer is not Jewish either. So I don't really see how that makes them anti-semite stereotypes. Seinfeld himself comes across as a nice, funny guy, so I don't see how he is a "back-stabbing stereotype" either. Sorry to hear about your hard childhood, Will. Have you considered therapy? Is "The Nanny" also fodder for anti-semitism?  |  IP: Logged Matt Fields Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 545 From: Ohio, United States Registered: Jun 2005 posted 11-06-2005 08:07 AM                     Not to put words in his mouth, but I think that Will maybe be talking about Jerry's family as well as Jerry. Both Jerry's parents and Uncle Leo do play out as Jewish stereotypes (cheap, ect.). If Jerry himself does, I never realized it. I never took offense because the show is an equal opportunity employer: everyone on it is an idiot!  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 11-06-2005 08:24 AM                        A lot of people are cheap. That is not specifically a Jewish stereotype. Seinfeld's parents come across as somewhat quirky, but very likeable old folks. And what motivation should Seinfeld have to provide "fodder for anti-semitism"? Is he a PLO spy masquerading as Jewish comedian to bring stereotypes to the people? Is he part of a big conspiracy?  |  IP: Logged Will Kutler Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1506 From: Tucson, AZ, USA Registered: Feb 2001 posted 11-06-2005 09:53 AM                     Then maybe I stand corrected? I thought that both George, Kramer and the rest were all Jewish characters? Cheers K.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 11-06-2005 05:59 PM                  Well Will, I never knew (or cared) that you were Jewish. BFD. Who cares? Neither did it ever occur to me that the actors and/or the characters on Seinfeld were Jewish. To me, they were just actors playing stereotypical "characters" that I'm sure we have all come across at some point or another in our life. That includes All the parents, Newman, Uncle Leo, Jackie Chiles (the lawyer), Babu (the Indian), the Soup Nazi, and on and on... The only one that perhaps could be considered stereotypical is George (BTW: Jason Alexander IS Jewish). "Not that there's anything wrong with that". He constantly wants something for nothing, is the king of brown-nosing, always has some "angle", lets the other person pay for his way and/or it all, or at least wants "credit" for when HE spends HIS money...and then he wants the change back. The "Big Salad" episode comes to mind. The point is, that show makes fun of EVERYONE for who we all are! Get over it!  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 11-06-2005 06:42 PM                        Personally I am very pro-semite. You either are for them (pro) or against them (anti). There is no middle ground. Back when I was a kid I had a semite as a pet, but I didn't take very good care of it and it died. I have felt guilty since. Maybe I am trying to make up for my guilt in being extremely pro-semite, I dunno. Anyway, what the hell is a semite? Sounds like something a dog collects in its fur or something that chews your house down. Also, Judaism is a religion, nothing more. For example if Jason Alexander has no religious beliefs he can't be considered a Jew, but he CAN be considered an Israelite or whatever it is. Right? Also, how can somebody be "Jew-ish"? Man I want to ask more questions but I don't want to BAN myself.  |  IP: Logged Mike Heenan Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1896 From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 11-06-2005 07:00 PM                     Hmm and here I thought the show was a portrayal of uncaring self centered New Yorkers.  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 11-06-2005 08:30 PM                        Semites are people speaking a Semitic language. This language group includes Hebrew, Arab, Ethiopian, and a number of modern and historic languages from the Near East. According to biblical tradition, these people are the descendants of Shem, one of Noah's sons. Correspondingly, the terms Japhetic and Hamitic were used for languages related to the Semitic group, but these terms are not used anymore. So, using the term "anti-semite" for Arabs who are anti-Jewish is wrong since Arabs are Semites themselves in the sense of speaking a semitic language. Apart from that, the language classification can not really be used to classify religious or ethnic groups, but this has been done for a long time when it was politically opportune.  |  IP: Logged Hillary Charles Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 748 From: York, PA, USA Registered: Feb 2001 posted 11-07-2005 06:03 PM                     Though Jason Alexander is indeed Jewish, his character is of Italian descent. In one episode, Frank, his father is excited that he might have found a long lost cousin in Tuscany, left there after his family emigrated to America. So George's "frugal" behavior has no other significance than the fact that he is cheap. In the episode in which Kramer hosts a Jewish singles dinner, it is mentioned that neither he nor Elaine Benes is Jewish. Uncle Leo is annoying, but I didn't see any negative stereotypical behavior. In fact, he reminds me of some of my relatives, and I'm a shiksa! Now if you are self-identified as a Hipster Doofus, then maybe you should be insulted.  |  IP: Logged

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